Luke V. Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Give this a read. Scary to think they might ban plastics http://www.bassmaster.com/news/soft-plastics-banned
jedimaster Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 This has been floated around before, there was an article a while ago about trout becoming bloats with soft plastic baits getting stuck in the stomaches... I'l see if I can dig it up.
jedimaster Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 This isn't the one I was thinking of. I think it may have been in OOD a few years back... http://www.igwmagazine.com/Past_Issues/2009/IGW-WINTER-2009-BIO-LURES.pdf
kemper Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 I can't see it happening, but it may cause some tackle companies to really buy into biodegradable plastics - which is good from all angles.
BillM Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 New fancy biodegradable plastics... only $25 a bag! But think of the fish!
mike rousseau Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 As long as Biodegradable is ok I think it's good...
outllaw Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 never change plastics are oil based. the oil companies have a stranglehold dont ya tink.
Luke V. Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 After some reading and research, there are some manufacures who make biodegradeable baits already. I can not find prices to compare however. They seem to be a special order item. I am all for biodegradable. If it means more fish will survive, or have a healthier life then thats fine with me. (No i dont support P3TA) but I do like the fish I release to have a better chance of growing bigger! If it means that the baits that get snagged and broke off esentially dissapear this could be a good thing. Cost will ultimately be the biggest factor. If someone were to comeup with a product that wasnt plastic based, fiar priced and was biodegradable in a few weeks i think it would be a winner
jedimaster Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Can you imagine the price of biogedragable musky baits?
Rod Caster Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Time for worm pickers to seize their opportunity!!
hirk Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 they are on the market,readily abvailable and priced the same as plastic. big bite baits offer the bio edge line for instance.
kickingfrog Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Never let facts get in the way of a windmill.
Oggie Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 I'd like to see them define "biodegradable" it's like nailing jello to the wall. Biodegradable in a few days or a few centuries? Dan O. Ps. I remember that article on tossing plastics over board in OOD. Right after that I caught a 4 lb rainbow with a 3" shad body (no jig) in it. The fish seemed to be in distress and frankly it didn't eat or smell properly but I don't waste game so I held my nose and down she went.
kemper Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 New fancy biodegradable plastics... only $25 a bag! But think of the fish! In many cases Bill the "agri-based" materials are actually cheaper than their petro based counterparts. I've worked with several start-up companies that could turn agricultural by-product into baits fairly easily....although I never considered it. Consider it considered!
tbseen Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 I'd like to see them define "biodegradable" it's like nailing jello to the wall. Biodegradable in a few days or a few centuries? Dan O. ATSM American Society for Testing and Materials had a standard for Bio-degradable. They have weight: "that which is capable of undergoing biological decomposition in a compost site such that the material is not visually distinguishable and breaks down into carbon dioxide, water, inorganic compounds and biomass at a rate consistent with known compostable materials." The problem with that standard was that it included inorganics. The standard got pulled. So buy all the biodegradable plastics you want but if they don't biodegrade back into the natural food chain they are not alright. May as well pour hormones and motoroil into the water.
John Bacon Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Gulp! Alive is all biodegradable - for price reference. But this is just another example of a politician with an agenda and poor wording which could have major sweeping implications...we've already seen many threads on that topic. Does "rubber" mean oil based? Does it mean oil and silicone based? Does it mean any soft plastic? Shouldn't rubber be what is derived from the sap of a rubber tree? By that definition none of the soft plastics will be banned.
Rich Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Biodegradeable baits need serious upgrades (besides berkley gulp) before they are a viable replacement to regular plastics... Anybody ever use "dr. Juice" back in the day? Crumbled into dust after 1min in the water.
Roy Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Biodegradable is an overused word. Almost everything is biodegradable at various speeds. We all know that newsprint for example is biodegradable but if you bury a newspaper, after 50 years, you'll still be able to read the headlines. More important than biodegradation would be the toxicity of a product in the water supply. But hey, it's Saturday morning and I'm probably not thinking straight.
lew Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 I saw something on the boob tube that says stainless steel will last 100,000 years. Didn't say how they've proved that though
kickingfrog Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) I put newsprint in my composter on a regular basis. It isn't even recognizable after a season. But yes, biodegradable is a over/miss used term. Edited February 9, 2013 by kickingfrog
Roy Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Illegal use of reality, 10 yard penalty, automatic first down. Ha! First good smile of the day! Thanks. I put newsprint in my composter on a regular basis. It isn't even recognizable after a season. But yes, biodegradable is a over/miss used term. That's because you're reading the Sun, you're churning your heap, you're using mostly veggie scraps and perhaps even using an accelerator.
MCTFisher9120 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Will never happen. Take your rubber plastics that get chewed up and keep them in a bait or pail in your boat then throw them out at home. Yes the odd time the senko get's stolen and you never see it again but keep the plastics out of the lake, bio degradable or not...Can't change plastics in the belly's of the odd fish I guess but what can you do... imagine the chaos when the ban on Water Gremlin sinkers comes out haha.
Rich Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Biodegradable is an overused word. Almost everything is biodegradable at various speeds. We all know that newsprint for example is biodegradable but if you bury a newspaper, after 50 years, you'll still be able to read the headlines. More important than biodegradation would be the toxicity of a product in the water supply. But hey, it's Saturday morning and I'm probably not thinking straight. Off topic but if I store my nightcrawlers in shredded newspaper it turns into dirt in a week..
Luke V. Posted February 14, 2013 Author Report Posted February 14, 2013 Sign this petition please www.bassmaster.com/news/sign-petition-keep-soft-baits-legal
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