beerman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Do you have to take this exam if your going on a fly in trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 No, as you are actually renting the boat. Rentals are exempt from needing to have the boating card. Plus it's not like you'll see any one any how. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerman Posted May 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Thanks. Honestly, we have had the Fish Commission land on our lakes a few times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 thats dumb... ive driven a boat my whole life and i need a license... but joe blow can go rent a speed boat that goes 50+mph and doesnt need one... :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 thats dumb... ive driven a boat my whole life and i need a license... but joe blow can go rent a speed boat that goes 50+mph and doesnt need one... :wallbash: Yep!! Don't want to lose any tourist $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 ive driven a boat my whole life and i need a license... I drove trucks with air brakes for 25 years then the government decided I needed to be tested and licensed to do it. Alot of stuff our governments get involved in doesn't make much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I was surprised to find this as well when I went to a fishing lodge last summer. That tells you the extent to which this thing is a joke. Can you imagine not needing a drivers license to rent a car? Ha, well what's the difference between this and a driver that can't follow simple rules like, not on the phone while driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adempsey Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Well, you're supposed to go through a checklist for a rental boat and that's the equivalent of the operators card. So, technically you do need one still. At least, that's how I understand the regs. Maybe I missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ha, well what's the difference between this and a driver that can't follow simple rules like, not on the phone while driving. Heres your wooden spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vance Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Technically you are suppose to carry the rental agreement with you which is your proof of a temporary boaters license BUT even last year when the OPP stopped me they didn't ask for my license vance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Were you in a rental Vance ? There are a few exemptions for persons over the age of 16 .... # 1 using a boat while working ( technically GUIDES are exempt) is how I understand it . ( is it just me ?) # 2 renting a boat ( checklist required) #3 non resident under 45 days . http://www.boaterexam.com/canada/faq_rules-en.aspx Randy Edited May 9, 2012 by Randy from Sturgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdog Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) "There are a few exemptions for persons over the age of 16 .... # 1 using a boat while working ( technically GUIDES are exempt) is how I understand it . ( is it just me ?)" not exempt - need a different license. A 'working boat' is no longer a pleasure craft, it's a commercial vessel which requires (at least?) a MED A3. Transport Canada web page has lots of details. Edited May 10, 2012 by Jon Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Straight from the page. Q. I operate a boat for work purposes. Do I need the Card? A. No. A Pleasure Craft Operator Card is only required by operators of watercraft being used for recreational purposes. It is common however for many commercial establishments (such as marinas, and fishing & hunting lodges)to ask their staff to obtain their Pleasure Craft Operator Card. Nothing mentioned about a different lisense required ? Must be on the employers side of things .... Maybe the guide himself ? Edited May 10, 2012 by Randy from Sturgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 You have to watch though because some rental companies don't offer the checklist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdog Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 From TC page Chartered Vessel If you rent or charter a vessel, it is a commercial vessel if: the master is the owner or someone provided by the owner; or it is used other than for pleasure. If you rent or charter a vessel without crew and you either hire a master or operate it yourself, it is a pleasure craft so long as it is used only for your pleasure, hunting or fishing for your own food, or for other needs of your daily living. If you are the owner, and you rent or charter the vessel without crew to someone else who uses it for pleasure, it is a pleasure craft. If you provide the master, or operate the vessel yourself, it is a commercial vessel.(bold emphasis added by me) where: "Commercial vessel" – a vessel that is not a pleasure craft or used for commercial fishing. The Small Vessel Regulations do not define "commercial" but refer instead to "vessels other than a pleasure craft." Both "commercial vessel" and "non-pleasure vessel" are used in this guide to mean "vessel other than a pleasure craft." Vessels of all types, including human-powered vessels and vessels that are owned by any level of government and government entities like fire and police departments, are commercial vessels unless used only for pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdog Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Which is to say - in order to operate a commercial vessel you need a different license and that license is deemed appropriate in place of a PCOC. If you have a MED A3, you don't need a PCOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) There are a few exemptions for persons over the age of 16 .... #3 non resident under 45 days . http://www.boaterexam.com/canada/faq_rules-en.aspx Randy Also misleading. Only applies if they are operating their own boat registered in their home country. No good for a boat they own which is registered in Canada, or a boat owned by someone else (ie: father or other family member or friend) Edited May 10, 2012 by Woodsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I don't need one as I leave Canada after 44.5 days then turn around and re-enter...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I don't need one as I leave Canada after 44.5 days then turn around and re-enter...LOL Hmm, just like a bad nightmare... :rofl2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hmm, just like a bad nightmare... :rofl2: It sounds like you need to catch a fish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I don't need one as I leave Canada after 44.5 days then turn around and re-enter...LOL The 45 days doesn't apply to the operator but the boat. Unless the boat leaves Canada for a full calender day the clock doesn't start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rice Laker Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I rent boats and go through the 15 point check list with those who do not have a Boat Operator’s Card. From my experiences, I would much rather be in a boat with someone who went through the checklist that morning than someone who got the Card 5 years ago on the Internet and has never been in a boat in their life...... Also in response to earlier postings, I don't know anyone who rents boats that "go 50mph". Edited May 11, 2012 by Rice Laker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 And for those who have never seen the rental agreement test, click the following link. http://www.boaterexam.com/canada/education/pdf/rental.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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