addymark Posted September 15, 2010 Report Posted September 15, 2010 Within the last year I have started fishing for musky, and have listened to all the expert advice I have been able to read on this forum. I have had pretty good luck with them and I recently bought bigger and better tackle and hope to catch a 40"+ this fall. I have all the equipment suggested by members, but regarding bolt cutters, I have only read "get them", "you need bolt cutters", "don't forget bolt cutters" hundreds of times, but never read anything on what I'm trying to accomplish with them. I know soon enough I will have one that absolutely inhaled a lure and I want to be quick and confident in getting that fish back into the water. I understand get the lure out of the fish and put the fish back in the water ASAP, but are there certain tips/techniques any of you musky guys find work better than others? and what happens to the other end of the hook stuck in the fish's throat? fall out eventually? stay embedded? and what about jaw spreaders vs. non puncture gloves etc.? suggestions and advice greatly appreciated!
Handlebarz Posted September 15, 2010 Report Posted September 15, 2010 Bolt cutters can and will save a musky's life for every musky hunter one day they are very important to have. Cutters are used if you have a badly hooked ski you can cut the hook out fast and get her back into the water also as you pointed out for a deep hooked fish you can use them to cut the hook out and yes from everything I have heard and read over the years hook's fill work loose from the fish if cut off. As for cutters to use most musky hunters use knipex cutters as they are about the best out there but they cost alot more then the CTC ones. The ones from Prinsess auto or CTC are fine they will do the job but they are alot harder to get through a 6/0 hook. If you have cheaper one for now that would do for the rest of this season if you get to the USA or are heading to the Muskies Canada Odyssey in April there is usually some one selling them around $45 Canadian. I use jaw spreaders if needed but most of the time I dont need them.
mistyriver1 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 Mike has covered it all. If you can afford the Knipex cutters, get them. They are definitely worth it. If I'm fishing by myself I don't even try to take the hooks out, I reach for the cutters right away. It only takes one minute to put a new hook on after you release your fish. Gloves are good investment as it gives you a little more confidence when you handle the fish. As for spreaders, I have them in the boat but rarely use them.
mistyriver1 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 Just to add one more thing, having a set of split ring pliers makes life easier as well. This video although they are using if for jewelery will give you an idea of what I'm talking about. If you have an old set of needle nose pliers around you can make your own. Heat up one end and bend the point and trim off the other side down a bit. Hope this helps. http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1350062/4657005
Pigeontroller Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 Eventually, every Muskie Angler will have to cut a hook thats in yourself! After you've landed(Netted, Large Muskie net, fish remains in the water) a few Muskies and had the option of cutting hooks you'll see why you should have them! Sometimes its quicker,safer(for you and the fish) and easier to cut hooks...
jediangler Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 It's always better to have the tools and not need them than to need them and not have them. I have not used my cutters in two years and it's been about 5yrs since I used the spreaders. One thing I don't like is the Boga grips as I believe they do too much damage to a musky.
Fisherpete Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 If removing the hook is going to cause further damage to the fish, or risk injury to myself, I cut it. I have 3 pairs of the CTC bolt cutters, and use them often, (cut the hooks on today's 48) but my next purchase is going to be a pair of the spring loaded Knipex cutters. The CTC ones are not very durable at all, but what can you really expect for $5-10 (when on sale). If the day ever comes that I have a big muskie on one hook, and the other in me - I want the best damn equipment available!!!
lew Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 I like to keep ALL my release tools in the SAME place on the front deck ALL the time cause there's nothing worse than needing something right away and you can't find it. I can put my hand on whatever I need, even in total darkness, without even looking. You get used to where they are and it just makes life simpler when you need a tool in a hurry. Knipex cutters are expensive and you don't want to drop them in the drink when your cutting hooks in the net, and a good trick I learned from a friend was to attach them to a boat cleat with an extendable telephone cord. The one I use can reach anywhere in the boat and if I drop them over the side it's not a problem.
addymark Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Posted September 16, 2010 thanks guys. very helpful indeed.
muskeybugged Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 One big Knipex advantage is the one handed cutting ability.... The handle on my Crappy tire pair (they work great) but when in the open position the handles are almost a foot apart needing 2 hands to chomp down on the hook.
Tybo Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 I have a set of CT bolt cutters and never used them.I adopt to use my high leverage knipex side cutter.Haven't come across a hook the side cutter won't go through. I all so attached a lanyard to them.
BillM Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 Better to cut the hook then digging it out of a fishes face. Hooks are cheap.
Handlebarz Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 I had forgotten that Lew and its a good point for all your tools have them on the phone cord or extra pliers around if they go in the drink . Go to the Dollar store but the phone cord 25' and a good quick snap or what ever they are called the best ones are used for rock climbing but the dollar store ones work good for your tools cut the ends off then crimp and tape or shrink tube them to your tools.
scuro2 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 The end result of cheap boltcutters...hook in Fishermen. The blood on fish belongs to him too!
bassman Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 I've got the CTC bolt cutters, but I'll be upgrading to the Knipex soon, based on what everyone is suggesting. I've never had to use the bolt cutters yet, as I pinch down the barbs to make the release as quick as possible. I know that I may lose the odd fish because of it, but I'm not a guide and I'm not going to fret over it.......until I lose a 50+ fish. Cheers!
Abraxus Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 I have not been able to find the knipex cutters. I have been looking for awhile now. Suggestions would be helpful. Ab
Raf Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 cheapest place i know of is Cobalt Cutter with Spring Acklands Grainger stocks knipex products if you have them in your neighbourhood but you will pay closer to $100
Pigeontroller Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 One big Knipex advantage is the one handed cutting ability.... The handle on my Crappy tire pair (they work great) but when in the open position the handles are almost a foot apart needing 2 hands to chomp down on the hook. Canadian Tire sells a Mini-bolt cutter(one handed) Same size as the Knipex. You're using the smallest 'bolt cutter' they sell, I bought one when I started Muskie fishing...Two hands, no good!
BillM Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 I've had great luck with Princess Auto specials, lol. I also don't feel bad when I drop them in the lake Cheap to replace.
danbouck Posted September 16, 2010 Report Posted September 16, 2010 http://www.princessauto.com/hand-tools/cutting-tools/bolt-cutters/8044029-8-mini-bolt-cutters I could use a pair for work
bigbuck Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 theringlord.com They are based in Saskatchewan. You can get your Knipex cutters there and they have a decent looking set of Split Ring Pliers for $11 and change. I bought my cutters from them a couple of years ago, they have good service and decent prices. Muskies Canada only sells the basic cutters, they don't have the spring loaded ones. Either will do the job but I think the spring loaded ones are easier to use.
Walshskie Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 The first time you stare into the net at 50"+ fish and it’s angry you'll know why you have bolt cutters. Most time unless the hook falls out or comes out on the first pull with needle nose I cut the hook. It’s the fast way the bait out of the net so the other hooks don’t damage the fish or you. But I don't leave any part of the hook in the fish. And if you are sharpening your hooks well they almost never fall out in the net. Good pair of split ring pliers and you are back in bussisness.
Fisherpete Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 Yeah, don't buy them from Acklands Grainger... stopped by there today and they can get them, but for $118!!!!! I'm placing my order with the RingLord tonight...
lew Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 I got mine from Ringlord a couple years back and paid around $60 if I remember correctly. Shipping only took a couple days too, great service.
Fisherpete Posted September 17, 2010 Report Posted September 17, 2010 Just placed my order online with the Ring Lord. $97.20 all said and done. I paid an extra $6.61 to rush ship. Should be here Monday or Tuesday... if they are as good as everyone says, they will be worth every penny and should last a while.
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