Solar Power Question?? (NF)

[steve_paul]

Just starting to look into adding a solar power system for my aunt's cottage on the French River. We don't need much power - just enough to run:

 

1 Fridge

A few lights at night

Small pump

 

Any body using solar now for their cottages / homes? Any recommendations of companies to check out?

 

Thanks for the help.

Edited February 27, 2007 by steve_paul

[Tybo]

WIND MILL.

We get more windy days then sunny.

[Big Cliff]

I don't konw all the numbers but here is what i would suggest:

 

Fridge, lights, and heating if you aren't using wood: propane

 

TV and other electronic things a small generator.

 

Solar power requires big batteries; heavy expensive, prone to failure.

 

I would love to hear more about this though as I am always ready to learn about that which I don't know much about!!!!!!!

[solopaddler]

My cabin is water access and completely off the grid. I've got 2 100lb propane tanks hooked up together. It's used to power the fridge, stove, some lights, and a gravity fed on demand hot water heater.

Last year I installed 2 of the large solar panels from Canadian Tire on the roof. They're wired to 2 deep cycle batteries in conjunction with a charge controller. These batteries are used to power 8 low voltage lights which I installed throughout the cottage, as well as a small 12V fan which vents the composting toilet in the bathroom.

For TV, every time I head up there I bring a power pack (also from C.T.) which is used in conjunction with a small power inverter. We don't watch a "ton" of tv, mostly Dora the Explorer videos for my 3 yr old daughter in the mornings, and the odd movie for my wife and I in the evenings. It's lasted for more than a week at a time for us before it needs recharging.

I've got a Honda generator, but that's used for 1 thing: my power tools (reno's never end ).

As mentioned my water system is gravity fed...I use a small gas powered jet pump to pump the water from the lake, up the hill to our water tower behind the cabin. Lines run from the tower and feed (as mentioned) our on demand water heater, which feeds the shower, bathroom sink and kitchen sink. There are as well, accompanying cold water outlets...We've got quite a run from the tower to the cabin, that combined with the head pressure from the water tank gives us unbelievable water pressure in the cabin. In fact, it's better than our pressure at home!

I believe, through trial and error, I have the perfect system for a cabin or cottage of the grid. If you have any more specific questions I'd be more than happy to help!

 

cheers, Mike

[troutologist]

Though I imagine it can be done, in the many camps Ive been to propane is by far the most popular method to power the fridge, stove. I believe the other items you mentioned could be run off a fairly small solar panel/battery bank. Especially if you use LED lights. Im very interested in hearing more about this also

[Bernie]

I have done a little research on this for my cottage. We stay there for most of the summer months. Would love to get off the grid. Most people that I have talked to that have done this use a combination of wind, solar and some propane. Most have generators for backup. They have told me on sunny days there is usually less wind and cloudy days the wind generator gets the workout. Electric refrigerators are power hungry and most use propane. There are tons of information on internet sites to research your needs. Its still not cheap but it is improving. Let us know what you come up with.

[Master of Bait]

Check this guy out. He's a good friend of mine in Toronto who's been installing solar panels residentially (cottages too in the Kawarthas) for the past year or so. I think the prices are very reasonable but I really can't speak to whether this is the right fit or not for you. Check out the site or give him a call - you'll definitely get the straight goods from him. Just tell him M.O.B. sent you!

 

http://www.goldwatersolar.com/

[Tacklebuster]

that brings up another question if that ok. Is anyone using those solar powerd battery chargers for their boat batteries, and how well do they work?

[Fisherman]

If you're referring to the old nitwit from the Canadian Tire commercial claining to power everything in his boat by solar, he was full of bullchunks. Even the large panel (15 watt) will only give you 1 amp under the most ideal conditions, full sunlight, panel angled at 90 degress to the sun and adjusted to follow the sun for the whole day..so from about 930 to 1730 daily is about 8 hoursx 1 amp = 8 amps back into the battery. You figure out how any good days it will take to recharge. If you use it to maintain a fully charged battery, they will do fine.

[Tacklebuster]

Thanks Fisherman, I was sceptical about it to begin with, I guess I'll spend my $ on lures instead, lol.

[Gerritt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6jIBZrPDuA

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR6B7uNNJD4 <---- if you can find the full video of this you'll be amazed!!!

 

 

 

 

ok I found the video.... pm me for details.

 

Gerritt.

Edited March 1, 2007 by Gerritt

[moemoe]

I don't have the specifics but for my family's cottage, Sunvolts in Parrysound supplied the system, which is four panels, an inverter and bank of eight batteries....Cottage is completely off the grid, so we have a honda generator as a backup.....Able to run cottage,with a freezer,but we run a propane fridge.... stove....

[ouiouibonjour]

I saw this post while looking into solar setups myself, and it’s cool to see how far things have come in the past years. For something like a cottage, where you don’t need a ton of power, a small solar setup could work great. Running LED lights and a small pump wouldn’t take much, and even a fridge is doable with the right panel and battery combination.
For example, a couple of 100W panels paired with a charge controller and a couple of deep-cycle batteries could probably cover the basics. Adding a propane fridge or stove might help keep things simple and reduce the load on the system. If you’re still considering your options, solarsmart.ie has some great resources for planning solar systems, especially if you’re just getting started.

Edited December 16 by ouiouibonjour

[JeffV]

I wired up a couple of the Canadian Tire solar panels in series along with a 24V charge controller to charge my 24V trolling motor battery system.  I fished for a few hours almost every evening and the panels were able to keep my batteries adequately charged during the summer months when the sun rises early.  I only had to very occasionally (once every few weeks) plug in my onboard 120V charger to top the batteries up.  It was more convenient to have the solar panels mounted right beside my boat on the dock than to drag out long extension cords from the shore to charge the trolling motor batteries.  It's always nice to save a few bucks on hydro as well.

 

 

[scuro2]

I have a friend with a cottage about 2 hours north of Sudbury. He has been using mainly solar for his cottage for about 2 decades. That all seemed to work well for him. He had a series of batteries that he charged. He was producing way more energy then he needed and the reason he over produced is because he used the cottage until the end of Oct so he needed enough juice then with the lower sun. The one thing that struck me was that he had to remove the batteries every winter because you can't freeze them.

[Reelpro]

Check out - Kipawasolar.com

They have installed a lot of remote cottage solar systems.

full building power.

I have stayed at one of their "off grid" cottages, and it was like we had hydro - terrific.

There was a backup generator to start up if voltage dropped below a certain level, stayed for 5 days and never had to start generator.

hot showers, indoor washrooms , full kitchen, full fridge/freezer, fans, lights , etc - 

 

[Reelpro]

On 12/21/2024 at 11:14 AM, scuro2 said:

I have a friend with a cottage about 2 hours north of Sudbury. He has been using mainly solar for his cottage for about 2 decades. That all seemed to work well for him. He had a series of batteries that he charged. He was producing way more energy then he needed and the reason he over produced is because he used the cottage until the end of Oct so he needed enough juice then with the lower sun. The one thing that struck me was that he had to remove the batteries every winter because you can't freeze them.

batteries wont freeze if they are in a state of full charge - left 240 deep cycle golf cart batteries all winter outside every winter for the 8 years of their life, they never froze when fully charged.

[smitty55]

15 minutes ago, Reelpro said:

Check out - Kipawasolar.com

They have installed a lot of remote cottage solar systems.

full building power.

I have stayed at one of their "off grid" cottages, and it was like we had hydro - terrific.

There was a backup generator to start up if voltage dropped below a certain level, stayed for 5 days and never had to start generator.

hot showers, indoor washrooms , full kitchen, full fridge/freezer, fans, lights , etc - 

 

What lodge was that at? I know Kipawa Lodge has a solar set up.

[Reelpro]

Miwapanee Lodge - they have outpost cottages off grid, as well as main Lodge in Kipawa

Owner - James - runs KipawaSolar  -

[smitty55]

4 hours ago, Reelpro said:

Miwapanee Lodge - they have outpost cottages off grid, as well as main Lodge in Kipawa

Owner - James - runs KipawaSolar  -

Right, their outpost cabin is in dead bear bay, I remember when they upgraded it.