Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 i'm thinking he got the boot for doing just that... that's what i gathered from spiel's "ADIOS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinger Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I for one am glad when a boisterous claim is 'debunked' by people who know they are talking about. If he would have just posted it I am sure he would have got nothing but congrats for a beautiful steelhead. OMG its over 20LBS!!!!! More like 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anders Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 i'd give it 13. when i finally held a 20lb salmon it was impressive to see just how big 20 lbs actually is. definitely a thick fish, but it's also held out to the cam. That is definitly a gorgeous bow shane...good job with it. Take a look at some of Solo's other post...you will see that the majority are from Ontario's tribs. Dr. Sal Do you remember that salmon on my Facebook page...with the "high Cholesterol"....that was 19lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Dr. Sal Do you remember that salmon on my Facebook page...with the "high Cholesterol"....that was 19lbs. 20 lbers are a lot bigger than most people think for sure! have you been doing any fishing lately or are they workin ya too hard up in the wa-squared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anders Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 20 lbers are a lot bigger than most people think for sure! have you been doing any fishing lately or are they workin ya too hard up in the wa-squared? Working hard...next week when hockey is done...then i am going to giver....gonna work the mich over a like a.......... Going to TO this weekend to watch the Bruins dismantle the leafs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 There's much that I could say here, but I think I'll take the high road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Working hard...next week when hockey is done...then i am going to giver....gonna work the mich over a like a.......... Going to TO this weekend to watch the Bruins dismantle the leafs! rad man. troutologist and i will be up that way this weekend. we'll work over the mich for ya too! might be the only river with water left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Congrats on a beauty buck! Pretty neat thread. The physiological/biological side of thing is pretty interesting (at least for me)…I’ve been interested in studying all the various strains of steelhead for quite some time. There are a number of ways of calculating fish weight. I’ve been doing some of my own research over the years on fish weight and have come up with the realization that the formulas used can be varied depending on the actual genetic strain of the steelhead measured. For example: The classic formula: LxGxG/800 formula I’ve seen used with salmon and steelhead as well as tuna, mackerel and barracuda. From what I’ve read, the 800 number was applied to take into account the length and girth associated with dead fish due to shrinkage. Tom Keelin (An engineer and fly fisherman from BC) came up with the formula specifically for the steelhead of the Babine river in BC (which apparently are even built differently than those from neighbouring rivers like the Kispiox and Bulkley). His formula is: LxGxG/690 with 80% accuracy. With that said, some of the fish from the Babine river are built more like chinnies I met one angler at the local fly shop who fished the Dean River in B.C (Near Bella Coola) and recommended that I use this chart for my planned trip there (which never did happen One formula I remember growing up with is to take the length in inches and subtract 20 from it to get how many pounds it was for steelhead. I found it was OK for fish 22 inches and above out of the the eastern tribs and the Credit (given a deviation of +/- 1-1.5lbs). With all said and done, you caught a fine specimen and nobody can take away the moment you had catching it. As blunt as some of the comments were, they were merely opinions and as such, arguing them (or going postal worker on them) is pointless. If you caught it out of the river I’m thinking of, I’m hoping to get one like that there later this week. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 i'm thinking he got the boot for doing just that... that's what i gathered from spiel's "ADIOS" Nope, he said "Bye" and I reciprocated, nothing more. If he wants to take his ball and go home because those in the know don't agree with the 20lb tag, then so be it. It would seem that most said "nice fish" even if they disputed the 20lb claim and it is indeed a nice fish. Easy to get caught up in the excitement and over estimate it's size when it's your best ever, but as I said, those in the know, know. No need to get upset if it's not a 20lb, it's still a solid fish and a benchmark for future efforts. And for the record the lack of an obvious fin clip does not guarantee that it's a wild fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Nice buck Shayne !! He must of put up quite a fight. Cheers !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hey Sebastian....buy a calculater....LOL You have exposed your ignorance!! I don't think you could work a scale..if you can't do simple math???Fusion.....did you fell the need to say "no where near 20lb's" twice??? Did you fell like you were not heard the first time?? Or do you stutter??? Solo....you gotta stop fishing in your bathtub across the boarder, and try a drift in Canada!! Who cant catch fish in the states? Really? How did I expose my ignorance? With the measurements you posted, the scale says 20 according to this super accurate calculator. With the measurements the 2nd guy posted, it would've been 28. Both very wrong. If you would've posted the fish alone it would've been nice but rookie steelheaders tend to oversize their fish drastically which is why you're being chewed up in this thread and the one on the other board. ITS A NICE FISH SO CONGRATS but put the pipe down and pick up a scale. Solo has some great pics and fishes the states to avoid steelhead gods like yourself who have been fishing for 3 months and posting black salmon. Please close this thread. It's honestly a waste of time to let this continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 all this hoopla 'bout a fish that would look better on a quick strike rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 all this hoopla 'bout a fish that would look better on a quick strike rig. Y'know Raf there's a largely unknown esox bite happening in the north channel at the moment. The prey is huge numbers of pen reared escaped rainbows. I actually have heard of guys rigging the damn things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I actually have heard of guys rigging the damn things. I've heard of that myself...but it is actually illegal I believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I've heard of that myself...but it is actually illegal I believe... Definitely illegal. People have a tendency to break the law now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdritchie Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 'Rumour' has it there's a similar bite on right now much closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Y'know Raf there's a largely unknown esox bite happening in the north channel at the moment. The prey is huge numbers of pen reared escaped rainbows. I actually have heard of guys rigging the damn things. I thought Ferg only rigged brookies? :) Also Mike, I didn't realize you just fished the US? lol Edited March 30, 2010 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie_james_c Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Everyone knows Rainbow fishing is for fairy's...real men fish for eye's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daplumma Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 All them soft rayed fish are nuttin but overgrown minnows,hunted by snotty guys who dress funny and love to look down thier nose at the common folk.....KIDDING... like I said its a good fish,wish I had caught it. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steel'n'esox Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Regardless of the fishes weight, its a big fish, and it was released, and fortunately did not have to hang on a scale, for an accurate weight, most certainly killing the fish, congradulations on your big steelhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie_james_c Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Regardless of the fishes weight, its a big fish, and it was released, and fortunately did not have to hang on a scale, for an accurate weight, most certainly killing the fish, congradulations on your big steelhead This is what I was thinking, but was not sure. Are trout/salmon species Gills not VERY soft? I'm not C&R activist but I do release fish and I try not to gill a trout/salmon or hang them on a thin chunk of wire by those gills... One more reason to Walleye fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtucciarone Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Nice fish man!!!! I use an abacus to calculate the weight of my fish.(i once caught a 50lb sun fish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syn Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Nice fish. Looks great in the picture and you had fun catching them. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctdd2006 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hey Sebastian....buy a calculater....LOL You have exposed your ignorance!! I don't think you could work a scale..if you can't do simple math??? Fusion.....did you fell the need to say "no where near 20lb's" twice??? Did you fell like you were not heard the first time?? Or do you stutter??? Solo....you gotta stop fishing in your bathtub across the boarder, and try a drift in Canada!! Who cant catch fish in the states? Really? To the fella who posted the pic of the montster steelhead.....WOW thanks for sharing that pic. That is a fantastic specimen!! BYE!! without even reading any replies I'm guessing "Shaynebow" just shot himself in the foot!!! Pick your battles bud....you will NOT win this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLofchik Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Y'know Raf there's a largely unknown esox bite happening in the north channel at the moment. The prey is huge numbers of pen reared escaped rainbows. I actually have heard of guys rigging the damn things. Dang, I fished the ones around Parry Sound for an afternoon but I didn't know they already had pens in the North Channel. There has to be a little bit of everything in on that smorgasbord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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