Fish Farmer Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) I don't know if this was posted before. This is a heads up for all portable fish hut owners. Any portable hut used more than 2 Square Metres (21.5 square feet) have to be registered. The only exception is zone 1-8,18 I called the ministry, and they say thats correct. What a bunch of bull Check page 11 in the new regs. Example: On L. Simcoe you will need 2 numbers East & West if you want to fish the whole lake. Edited January 17, 2008 by Spiel
LeXXington Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 21.5 square Feet,,, and thats a portable Hut???
irishfield Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 If you take a tent out, or one of the tent style shelters, that's more than 5' x 4 feet I guess it needs registration numbers Lex.
Fishnfiend Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 I suppose it costs money to register 'em...? If that's the case, then they can chase me down for fines... I bought a portable hut (clam) 6' x 4' so that I didn't have to go through the registration process and so that I didn't have to leave it on the ice. GRRRR
Terry Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 yes at this time this is what they are saying my two man clam is 35 sq ft it seems stupid but it is the government
Headhunter Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 Does this sound like a simple money grab or what? What could they possibly say that would justify this? HH
kickingfrog Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) I think the ministry needs to learn how to write more clearly. Edited January 16, 2008 by kickingfrog
wuchikubo Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 At last check, the hut registration was free. (This was 1.5 weeks ago). Unless you are a commercial ice hut owner.
Terry Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 on simcoe I think it is still free to register them however to get a tent company to make up a set of numbers on the same material and sow it on is $150.00 LOL
wuchikubo Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 Any hut left on the ice without someone physically occupying it would also need a number regardless of the size. It's not a money grab, just a so that it keeps ice anglers honest when it comes time to clean up. If it's left after thaw or after the zoning time limit, the registered owner would be fined for littering. (or something down that line of thinking)
Terry Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 that is not what they are saying now the have stated and used the word tent and portable people send an email to the mnr tell them it is stupid here is the spot on their website to email mnr email feedback here are the regs Q3: Why is there a need to register ice huts in some of the new FMZs? A: Ice hut registration is now required in zones 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. Many individual lakes or districts currently require ice hut registration. Registration at a zone-wide scale and the setting of standardized ice hut removal dates were introduced to make it easier to determine where ice hut registration and removal dates apply and to assist with enforcement. Ice hut registration assists Conservation Officers to ensure all ice huts are removed prior to ice break up by enabling them to identify the owner of the ice hut. * In this Zone, only a few waterbodies are open for winter fishing – see Additional Fishing Opportunities for Zone 17. • You do not need to register your ice hut in Zones 1-8 and 13. • You do not need to register an ice hut if it is a tent made of cloth or synthetic fabric that has a base area of two square metres (21.5 square feet) or less when erected. • Ice hut registration numbers must be at least 6.3 cm (2.5 in.) in height and clearly displayed on the outside of the hut. • Whether or not an ice hut removal date applies to your Zone, it is an offence under the Public Lands Act to leave your ice hut out after ice break up.
LeXXington Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 If you take a tent out, or one of the tent style shelters, that's more than 5' x 4 feet I guess it needs registration numbers Lex. Wow, put it in that contect and it does seem a bit stupid..
wuchikubo Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Thanks Terry for the clarification. I stand corrected. It was the impression I had when I finished talking to the MNR rep. Edited January 17, 2008 by HearingFish
Terry Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 well it is still as clear as mud and I am hoping they state that they are only needed when you leave it on the ice overnight, when they reply to my email but till then we must register them..I guess
Kerry Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 The MNR can put any spin they want on it.It won't stop the ones that will leave garbage and old tents behind cause it's hit or miss when it comes to being checked.Seeing as the ice is considered as not safe they won't likely be out on the lakes till the snowmobile clubs start staking or at least that's the way it seems to be around Orillia anyway.They'll sit in the parking lot and wait for you.Anyway,I guarantee you regardless of the size of my Clam portable I'd have to be an idiot to leave it overnite unattended.It would serve me right if it was taken. Kerry
lovetofish Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 So if my hut is 4x6 and is made out of plywood and tarp, does it need to be registered? lovetofish
crappieperchhunter Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 Just scrambled down stairs to measure my Fish Trap Pro. Base measurements approx 34 x 64 when erect...giggle...I said erect...guess I'm safe.
Terry Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 yes they are stating that anything but a small one man 4X5 or smaller anthing bigger need to be register with numbers
lovetofish Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 how do i go about doing that for simcoe?
wuchikubo Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 So if my hut is 4x6 and is made out of plywood and tarp, does it need to be registered? lovetofish I was told by MNR, if it is being left out on the ice unattended, then yes it needs to be registered. BTW, I had the same setup.
Fish Farmer Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Posted January 16, 2008 Yes registration is free, but you have to register through that district office that your fishing in. This means that if you move to different lakes or districts you need a new number. Your hut will look like a bill board, how are you going to put the numbers on. Paint, sew, stick, etc. With all the pounding around, stick ons won't last. Paint, what happens if you sell your portable the number stays with the hut under your name. What a nightmare. Anyone want to buy a Clam? LOL!
Fish Farmer Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Posted January 16, 2008 Hearingfish, I called this afternoon. They told me it doesn't matter. If you set foot on the ice with your portable, it's got to be registered. Leaving it there or NOT.
buckster Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 wow guess ive broke the law a few times this year so far
Roy Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 I can understand why they'd want you to register a permanent hut but not too clear on any reason for a portable. (aside from a cash grab) If it IS the law, you don't need to disfigure your clam with paint or embroidery. Just tote one of these around and put magnetic registration number on there. It also doubles as a great cooler. You can keep your lunch and drinks in there. Also available in other species of fish. CAUTION: Don't ever use the pig one. You'll be getting carded every outing.
huntervasili Posted January 16, 2008 Report Posted January 16, 2008 Well I used your link Terry and sent em an E-mail and would think any of us who ice fish whether or not with a portable should do the same... If ya let the Gov't or Ministry push too much the will keep going, and eventually affect you whether or not you see it now... soon it will be special licenses for vehicles including cars, and Ice fishing licenses. Lets all speak up OFC has a voice lets show the Ministry. Heres my message: Hello there, and good day to you. I am writing about registering fish huts in zones 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. The new registration rules seem to be somewhat ignorant as even portable collapsible huts must be registered. I enjoy frequenting many lakes and want to understand how it is reasonable to ask those of us who have portables, not much over regulation size (being 21.5 sq. feet), are supposed to go about fishing the many lakes we are fortunate enough to have in Ontario without making our huts covered in 2.5" lettering specifically on cloth, where stickers or paint are not an option and the numbering would cost near or over $100 per license number. Hopefully this was some sort of oversight, which is clearly in need of re-evaluation. I appreciate any response. Bill Parker
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