short and long are relative terms. What do you consider a short versus a long walk? To me short is around 5 minutes, moderate 15 and long might be half an hour. If you don't have a lot of time, I guess go with short. Got 3 or 4 hours I'd say go to the quarry...then again, sounds like I'm too late to offer any advice. Oh well, at least you got to play with your chub