Tayzak15 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Well this season I noticed my boat running slower and harder starting than in years past. So sure enough I take it to the shop and its got 70 psi in one cylinder and 90 in all of the others. My mechanic tells me they are all pretty worn and obviously the 1 at 70 needs fixing. Its a 1999 200 hp mercury optimax and he quoted me at 9000$ to have it completly rebuilt. To me that seems a bit high, although I don't know too much about the price of rebuilding. Can anyone chime in? or maybe give me some other suggestions or people that do it cheaper? Or am I looking at spending that much wherever I go fora rebuild?
Dutch01 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 I don't know if that's a good price for a rebuild, but I just checked kijiji and found a 2008 Opti 250XS for 10,500. I would do that before I'd spend 9000 to rebuild a 1999....
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 That does sound pretty costly to me. You could look into the cost of a new motor and see how much difference the cost would be to upgrade to newer tech. All 3 of those cylinders seem low on compression. My '91 2 stroke Merc was about 120 psi on each cylinder when I sold it in 2013.
Tayzak15 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 Sorry let me correct myself 5 of the 6 cylinders were at 90 psi the other one was at 70. I wish I could get that 250 pro XS for that price but my boat is only rated for 200hp.
misfish Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Call these two places. Yes, they are far away from you, but just talk to them and ask the questions you are here. Top gun Marine Paul Innisfil, ON L0L 1R0 (905) 775-0862 https://www.xtrememarinelondon.com/ Edited July 20, 2016 by Brian B
chris.brock Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 I haven't had anything rebuilt lately, but that does sound really high, $1500 per cylinder. If you are looking at rebuilding, find out exactly what will be done. There can be a vast difference in what someone considers a rebuild or a complete rebuild.
tb4me Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Holy crap what would a new motor cost? Cant be that much more, no? Edited July 20, 2016 by tb4me
Tayzak15 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 Holy crap what would a new motor cost? Cant be that much more, no? Brand New Optimaxes look like theyre around 20,000
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) What is the shaft length on your motor? Bridgeview marine in BC gets lease returns all the time from their lodge clients. They currently have 2 150hp Verados for $6K each but they are 25" XL motors. OH, and don't worry about getting it out to you. I bought my new 115 4 stroke from them and they shipped it to me. Cost $700 for shipping but I still saved over $3K if I bought locally. http://bridgeviewmarine.com/product-category/boat-engines-outboards/used-boat-engines/ Edited July 21, 2016 by DRIFTER_016
Tayzak15 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 What is the shaft length on your motor? Bridgeview marine in BC gets lease returns all the time from their lodge clients. They currently have 2 150hp Verados for $6K each but they are 25" XL motors. OH, and don't worry about getting it out to you. I bought my new 115 4 stroke from them and they shipped it to me. Cost $700 for shipping but I still saved over $3K if I bought locally. Mine is a 20 inch shaft unfortunately, but I do have a jackplate on it.
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 Keep an eye on their page a couple of weeks ago they only had the 350 Yammy. They had a couple of 200's earlier in the year.
Garnet Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 The labour cost are big. Just take your cowling off and have a look. Everything you see needs to be removed. Likely if you find the right guy you can split the cases buy over size rings, run a hone in each cylinder put it back together for a lot less than 9k. This is what I would call a hack job and when it's done I would trade it in for something good.
Freshtrax Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) It's a 99. Just needs a hone and some new rings more than likely would run for another 10 years.Seems steep. but impossible to tell without disassembly and inspection. Edited July 21, 2016 by Freshtrax
Tybo Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 Get on Google,Look up rebuilt power units for sale.you will find what you need.
Garnet Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 Trax is right. Lots of these motors run for years after this repair. At this point you still have value. I'm just guest da mating 3-4k for this repair. If you run it and blow a rod out the case you have $50 of scrap aluminum. In may 2015 I was looking for a 1999-2003 225 opti. I found 1 EFI with enough hours on it for $5500 and any Opti 7k or more, most with eye popping hours on them. Like drifter said you can find cheaper Verdos put they are a bad fit for a bass boat. And not great on gas.
grimsbylander Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 It's important to know what kind of hours were put on the outboard as well. Now that guys are using features like structure scan, outboards are logging higher hours in the 1000-2000 range. In the old days it was all +5000! Ask for a readout.
grt1 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 thanks for the link, going to keep an eye on this one.
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