misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Im having many issues with this finder. I bought it used and trusted I was getting a good deal. There is no disrespect to the seller. It might just be the way I have set it up. I have reset to factory settings and set it up like I did my elite 4X. It , the 4X,runs flawless.I have heard the 5 is a bit different for set up and have also read they are a P3TA to set up. My biggest issue came today. I could mark my heavy jig, then it wouls fade away. Yes, it was staright down. I mark a solid bottom and correct depth. Other issues I have are surface clarity and noice. If they are off, I get a full coloured screen. I need to have both on low to show a clear white screen. Very frustraded now. On the 4, I can clearly mark a meegs 100 ft down ,williams as well. This thing I lose it in 55 fow all of a sudden today. I am running the ice ducer, yet when I bought this unit, it came with a regular skimmer type. Would this be my issue? The connector is not Blue for the ice ducer, it just plugs into the prongs like my 4 does. Hope Im making sense here. For those that have this unit, can you share your set up? Thanks For now, the 4 is going back into action. Edited June 17, 2016 by Brian B
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 Yup, Terrys great at these things, I just want to hear from those that use this unit.
Terry Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 he wont let me touch it he thinks I will break it so I can finally out fish him...lol its hard to out fish a Newfie...lol
Tom McCutcheon Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 I'm not familiar with the unit, but can you change the frequency from 200mghz, to 83, to 50? Or shallow to deep water setting?
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 I'm not familiar with the unit, but can you change the frequency from 200mghz, to 83, to 50? Or shallow to deep water setting? I have tried all what you said Tom. I hope it rains next weekend ,and I,ll head down to Radio World. he wont let me touch it he thinks I will break it so I can finally out fish him...lol its hard to out fish a Newfie...lol LOL Bud. LOL
kickingfrog Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 Do you still have the second transducer to check?
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Do you still have the second transducer to check? Yes Rob. Im going to try it out after work Monday. Also going to try the 4 as well with the ducer it came with. I dont see the ducer being the problem, unless the two machines are not compatible. Edited May 29, 2016 by Brian B
kickingfrog Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 I don't know about the compatibility but transducers to fail/break.
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 I don't know about the compatibility but transducers to fail/break. So why would I mark the bottom soild, but lose the jig?
kickingfrog Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 So why would I mark the bottom soild, but lose the jig? I'm just spitballin'. But if it isn't compatible then why would you mark bottom but not the jig?
Sinker Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 So why would I mark the bottom soild, but lose the jig? I've had the exact same thing happen to my elite 5. S.
manitoubass2 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 Sounds like sensotivity issues to me Odd that it marks the jig then fades out???
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 I'm just spitballin'. But if it isn't compatible then why would you mark bottom but not the jig? Thats what Im asking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
glen Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 On the hummin bird. The ice ducer is a different Deg. Cone angle. This will cause a jig to be out of the cone. Ice ducer. Not so good with current.
Old Ironmaker Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 I bet it's transducer related. I have started to tape a sock over my transducers when trailering the boat. I never thought of it before but think how much road debris is scratching the bottom, especially gravel roads. I have seen my Hummingbird as well as my Garmin lose some definition every year. Sure enough I crawled to look at the transducer and they were scratched to heck. I dread running and buying new transducers. I got that tip and a new hat from Charlie Wray when I saw him at Proctor's last month. I don't know if it's any help Brian, hope you sort things out.
landry Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 I owned the elite5 and I had the same issues. It is a very poor deep water model - meaning over 60' it marks your jig very poorly. And for the record - I am very comfortable and skilled with tweaking electronics. I tried everything - on the ice with an ice ducer or in my boat with transom ducer. Same basic deep water issue. I now have a HB 899 and 859 and they mark jigs waaaayyy better. I am very pleased.
Garnet Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 It sounds like installation problem. Did you wrap the transducer cord in a big ball and tape. This makes it a coil, the static builds up and you lose adjustments. Wrap your cord in something that does not conduct electricity. Wood, plastic. You could go to Source and buy a factory hub. And this ball of static is likely near you power wire.
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 It sounds like installation problem. Did you wrap the transducer cord in a big ball and tape. This makes it a coil, the static builds up and you lose adjustments. Wrap your cord in something that does not conduct electricity. Wood, plastic. You could go to Source and buy a factory hub. And this ball of static is likely near you power wire. Wow, you hit something there. I just rerigged my finder on conduit and it,s wrapped up now. It did work better when it was just hanging. I will remove the wrap and see. Thanks Garnet. Never thought this would effect the unit.
esoxansteel Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 So why would I mark the bottom soild, but lose the jig? Cause with you its likely in the fishes mouth
misfish Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 Here is what I have now Garnet. I am using emt for the holder. Thats what the wire is wrapped to.
Old Ironmaker Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 I guess you won't get much road rash on the transducer when it's in the box of the truck. I forgot it wasn't on a REAL boat.
Garnet Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 Is that your power cord beside your Transducer cord. It would be fine if one was on top and other on bottom if pipe was plastic.. I one time had my Transducer cable across the battery. You just want to separate transducer cable from all other sources of power. Is your fish finder on your trolling motor battery. Just things like that. Fish finder are very sensitive to static and volt drop.
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