manitoubass2 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Im sorry but I got a good laugh from the "my doctor told me" comment. Prohibition brainwashed allot of people including Doctors..They were not taught anything about cannabis nor were pharmacists. I have spoken to a couple doctors in regard to pot..One even laughed and said all that crap does is give you them munchies.. Its a shame but yup Doctors dont know any more then anyone on here right now..There is a use for this plant in medicine like it or not..Im also all for recreational use if its regulated and taxed. General practitioners usually dont study outside of school. Thus my comment Once they are in practice they kinda just go through the motions in most cases. You need specialists to chime in, the drs that study for life, and are more scientific minded. Ive fired 2 drs in my past(yes you can do that) I now have a dr that is up for debate and doesnt sit "2 steps above me". She respect my knowledge and insight and vice versa. If a dr cant explain mechanism of action to you of a drug in great detail, well, maybe you wanna move on and get a new dr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 . General practitioners usually dont study outside of school. Thus my comment Once they are in practice they kinda just go through the motions in most cases. You need specialists to chime in, the drs that study for life, and are more scientific minded. Ive fired 2 drs in my past(yes you can do that) I now have a dr that is up for debate and doesnt sit "2 steps above me". She respect my knowledge and insight and vice versa. If a dr cant explain mechanism of action to you of a drug in great detail, well, maybe you wanna move on and get a new dr. I've fired more than a few. When I went into my fathers Dr. with him and questioned the Dr. my father flipped on me. "You can't talk to a Dr. like that". Watch me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 . I've fired more than a few. When I went into my fathers Dr. with him and questioned the Dr. my father flipped on me. "You can't talk to a Dr. like that". Watch me Yip. They are just public servants. The look on their faces is priceless if you fire them??? I demanded all my file, "what? I cant give you your file!" Yes you can and you will thats my property!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehg Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 With totally legal pot there is a chance that people will turn away from the high test stuff and go back to the milder stuff we grew up with. Sell it on the spice rack at the grocery store. Ya that is the point off the thread. Hopefully in the future the medicinal benefits will be recognized. Cannabis derived oils and tinctures have saved me from serious medical issues, Multiple Sclerosis and severe chronic post surgery back pain. Way better than opiates i am prescribed. Not going to act tough and fire my Dr. despite all this however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Ya that is the point off the thread. Hopefully in the future the medicinal benefits will be recognized. Cannabis derived oils and tinctures have saved me from serious medical issues, Multiple Sclerosis and severe chronic post surgery back pain. Way better than opiates i am prescribed. Not going to act tough and fire my Dr. despite all this however. Thats good news! And just for the record I never fired my dr over his views on marijuana lol. I tore my hamstring in half, he said I sprained it. The week long delay for surgery cost me 2 years of intense physiotherapy. Id also like to punch him in the face now but firing him was good enough??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Yip. They are just public servants. The look on their faces is priceless if you fire them I demanded all my file, "what? I cant give you your file!" Yes you can and you will thats my property!!! It's not like the "Apprentice,your fired" more like I think I'll get a second opinion and not go back or ask your family Doc for another specialist. The info in the file is yours, the file is his. When we moved and my wife decided to go to the Dr. across the street from where she works the cost to transfer the file was something like 70 bucks. I didn't give up that money without looking into it. Try and get a file from your Lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 It's not like the "Apprentice,your fired" more like I think I'll get a second opinion and not go back or ask your family Doc for another specialist. The info in the file is yours, the file is his. When we moved and my wife decided to go to the Dr. across the street from where she works the cost to transfer the file was something like 70 bucks. I didn't give up that money without looking into it. Try and get a file from your Lawyer. You may be correct, maybe not? Keep in mind I did this 15 years ago before it was all computerized. Also, maybe it wasnt policy but i shook him enough to get me records? No clue really. Nowadays for sure its not even a transfer of records, any dr can bring up your files on demand instantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I took my mom to the cancer clinic in Ottawa before Xmas. When the doc was done doing business with my mom I asked him if I could ask him a few questions. I asked him about cannabis oil therapy for cancer and he looked at me like I had two heads and replied, I know nothing about that. I asked him if there was a doc in the building who was studying this and could answer my questions. He said there were no docs at the cancer clinic researching this. None, not one. so I figured I would ask him why no one is studying this and why are they still offering chemo and radiation treatment when the failure rate is about 93%. He said sometimes you have to take the bad with the good. And research costs a lot of money. Have a nice day doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb4me Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I took my mom to the cancer clinic in Ottawa before Xmas. When the doc was done doing business with my mom I asked him if I could ask him a few questions. I asked him about cannabis oil therapy for cancer and he looked at me like I had two heads and replied, I know nothing about that. I asked him if there was a doc in the building who was studying this and could answer my questions. He said there were no docs at the cancer clinic researching this. None, not one. so I figured I would ask him why no one is studying this and why are they still offering chemo and radiation treatment when the failure rate is about 93%. He said sometimes you have to take the bad with the good. And research costs a lot of money. Have a nice day doc. this saddens me to no end.. There is no real "scientific proof" it works at all..However there are 10's of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of individuals that have cured themselves of many and most cancers with the oil of Cannabis.. There is no getting 10K a day from the feds per person using a "natural remedy" friggin greed kills me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 There was an interesting piece on HBO Canada last night on the Bill Maher produced show Vice. It gave some interesting views and facts on the Marijuana industry in the US and Canada. Such as the individuals that fought to legalize the use of Marijuana are now going out of business as they can not compete with the corporate growers as the price has plummeted since the market has been glutted with commercially grown weed. The weed Czar that works in the Governor's office for Colorado said they estimated the first year revenue for weed would be $750,000.00 it actually came in at 1 Billion in sales. Ohio voters voted against the legalization. It makes me wonder if we will have a referendum on legalization of weed? I'm all for that. It is a left tilting program but I learned from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 You may be correct, maybe not? What do you mean "maybe not?". Maybe we paid more, you might be right, maybe not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 You may be correct, maybe not? What do you mean "maybe not?". Maybe we paid more, you might be right, maybe not? Im just saying both situations might be indeed correct, or have possibly changed overtime??? I do not know. I never paid a fee to get my file(yes you are correct, the empty file is his lol) the documents are mine Its all computerized now so it would be completely different and it wouldnt shock me to pay for copies. And I was told not to just switch drs, literally tell them they are fired and it gets filed against them. No idea what happens with that?(presumably nothing lol) When I fired my dr, my new dr also filed a complaint against my old dr stating incompentant and inhumane services, something to that effect. Because even a bus driver could have told you i tore my hamstring(black and blue from hip to toe, heal fused to my butt lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'll email you Rick, we are getting way off topic, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'll email you Rick, we are getting way off topic, again. Hahaha agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSTER Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Nobody will buy weed at $15/gram from LCBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Supreme Pharma is the game changer. It's facility is The Veg. grow beside Bruce Nuke with almost unlimited expansion. The only other one close is tweed. This will drive prices down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Supreme Pharma is the game changer. It's facility is The Veg. grow beside Bruce Nuke with almost unlimited expansion. The only other one close is tweed. This will drive prices down. so they think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Supreme Pharma is the game changer. It's facility is The Veg. grow beside Bruce Nuke with almost unlimited expansion. The only other one close is tweed. This will drive prices down. Yeah just like beer , tobacco and gasoline , a ten dollar box of beer or bottle ends up being thirty sumthin when all the taxes are heaped on it, production costs are a minor part of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 And that's why weed will be more illegal to make it legal. The new laws will make so illegal not worth the risk and protecting tax dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 If the provincial govt becomes the sole provider of weed in this province I guarantee this will be a huge flop. Pot doesn't belong in liquor stores if you ask me. How can you sell something so benign as cannabis along side a drug that is so poisonous. We need to put people to work in the private sector. I think it should be sold only in boutique shops that only sell pot. The other option is let everyone sell it if they wish lcbo, drugstores, pot dispensaries etc. Wont take long for the LP's to go out of business. I asked 3 people yesterday how much a gram of weed is going for on the black market. I was told anywhere between 6 and 8 dollars. Six for outdoor and 8 for indoor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 You think! We are talking Gov. and money. And they are going to let ever man woman child growing 5 plants and just send in $100 tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) If the provincial govt becomes the sole provider of weed in this province I guarantee this will be a huge flop. Pot doesn't belong in liquor stores if you ask me. How can you sell something so benign as cannabis along side a drug that is so poisonous. We need to put people to work in the private sector. I think it should be sold only in boutique shops that only sell pot. The other option is let everyone sell it if they wish lcbo, drugstores, pot dispensaries etc. Wont take long for the LP's to go out of business. I asked 3 people yesterday how much a gram of weed is going for on the black market. I was told anywhere between 6 and 8 dollars. Six for outdoor and 8 for indoor It will be sold in Pot Boutiques as it is sold in Colorado. Denver has bus tours going from pot stores to pot store sampling the goods as they drive around. I hope the driver isn't getting second hand smoke because in the video I saw you can cut the smoke on the bus with a knife. Our world is changing, or is it? My grandmother who was a kid in southern Italy told us in the 1960's about the adults along with the children harvesting hemp for cordage and smoking the buds to feel nice and calm. That would have been in the late 1800's. Maybe we are just going full circle over 100 years latter. Every generation thinks they invented getting high. The Spanish didn't just bring back corn and tobacco from the new world, cocaine became the snuff of choice for the privileged. Edited March 4, 2016 by Old Ironmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I sincerely hope it goes the colorado route. Big boom to the economy. Outta curiousity I looked up some stats yesterday about colorado before and after legalization and most the numbers I was surprised with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Supreme Pharma got there licence to grow medical weed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Supreme Pharma got there licence to grow medical weed today. Thats who you invested in isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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