chris.brock Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) I'm guessing some of you guys out in the sticks have built or at least priced garages. I'm thinking just a basic shelter to keep the weather and critters out. Maybe 20x40. I don't have a clue what something like this costs. Last weekend the tarp set-up I had over my pontoon boat collapsed. I also opened the cowl on my snowmobile, and a mouse was sitting beside the moth balls, looking up at me. He had used the bounce dryer sheets I had put in there to build his nest in the belly pan. Hahaha Edited November 18, 2014 by chris.brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Depending on what you want, and where you live. Anything over 100sq ft requires a permit or 2. Structure cost without a concrete pad run $45-55 sq ft. Insulated? Hydro? Heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I built a 16x24 for about 8G all in myself. Built on a pad with a second floor loft up top. Thats finished, but no heat/inslation, and I did all the work myself. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 If you like a steel building is probably the easiest and most cost effective. These guys seem to have deals a lot of the time. Most expensive part is the slab I would think. http://www.pioneersteel.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I just had a woodshed built. 20x10. Rough cut on the outside, steel roof. $3,000 including labour, materials were $1,800!. I'd love to have a garage as well, but I assumed $13-15,000 for an insulated/wood heat about the size you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.mech Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Any outbuilding over 538 sq ft requires either a full foundation or an engineered floating slab in addition to a building permit for anything over 100 sq ft. Costs for an engineered slab alone would likely be $8000 or so for an 800 square foot shop and full footings would be a little more again. A pre-fab metal building would likely be cheapest but depending on what you want at the end it may not be the easiest thing to insulate & finish. A wooden structure insulated, with some heat and power is likely going to cost you $40k unless you do all the work yourself. I just put nice fibre cement siding on my shop that size and the material alone was almost $5000....it ain't cheap especially with permits and all involved. Edited November 19, 2014 by G.mech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Oh, and if you do build anything requiring permits, keep in mind that MPAC will not be far behind! Gawd I love living in an unorganized township. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Gawd I love living in an unorganized township. Me too!!! No permits needed for the cabin I'm building. Of course that doesn't mean I'll cut any corners. I just won't have to deal with some mook telling me to do it their (wrong) way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I put up an 18 x 24 garage with loft for $21000 about 3 years ago. I had someone do the eng slab, $5000, and someone put on the shingles, the rest was me. Cost includes electrical permit ( I got this), health permit (I got this), drawings of the eng pad and structure (I drew them and got permit), underground electrical service from house to garage 100 amp panel, all the wire, not heated nor insulated. I think insulation alone is going to run me $1000, and still no heat.If someone building it for me I'd expect $50 000, around here.Entropy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 thanks guys when MPAC was mentioned by Chad, my blood pressure suddenly jumped up a bit, well, quite a bit, but that's another thread topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 A pre-fab metal building would likely be cheapest but depending on what you want at the end it may not be the easiest thing to insulate & finish. They actually aren't hard to insulate. Most have spray foam shot on the walls and ceiling with a hard fireproof coating blown on over top of the spray foam. Pretty sure there are also insulating kits that are just attached via the bolts that hold the structure together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 thanks guys when MPAC was mentioned by Chad, my blood pressure suddenly jumped up a bit, well, quite a bit, but that's another thread topic ugh, I hear you. I have my own issues with them. Maybe one of those fancy C-Tire shelters is the way the go. Even if you buy one every 5 years it's probably cheaper than building a permanent building. Now keep in mind that if you sell your house, a higher appraisal value would be in your favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 For what it's worth in Hamilton my house taxes are $3500 on the year, and my neighbor across the street has the identical house less the detached garage and our taxes are a shade under $400 more, mind you I have a bunch more concrete than they do my garage is 14'x25' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 ugh, I hear you. I have my own issues with them. Maybe one of those fancy C-Tire shelters is the way the go. Even if you buy one every 5 years it's probably cheaper than building a permanent building. Now keep in mind that if you sell your house, a higher appraisal value would be in your favour. HAHA, I've been getting 5 years out of mine and after 5 years $160 buys me a new cover for it. I've actually og 3 of the 10X20's and a 10X10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 here on the rez no permits are required. but id never build a full garage here because you never actually own it. a friend just built one here with local help and roughly the size you like for about $24,000. the only thing id ever build on rez land is a cabin at least in treaty 3, you can own the structure(house/garage) but you never own the land. thats too sketchy for me, even though it dramatically reduces the cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.mech Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 They actually aren't hard to insulate. Most have spray foam shot on the walls and ceiling with a hard fireproof coating blown on over top of the spray foam. Pretty sure there are also insulating kits that are just attached via the bolts that hold the structure together. Thats true but if you ever want to finish the inside it's kind of a pain to do much over the spray on. Depends on what you want out of your shop...mine is a man-cave and nicer than my house in a lot of ways (like it's much quieter and peaceful out there...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Your best to go to your towns building department tell them what u want to do Find oit what your allowed to do and get it in writing. After all that home hardware has several diy garage kits aroind size your looling for material cost 7-8k plus foundation electrical and permits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 If you do build, don't put a regular roof truss on, but rather a vertically stretched out attic truss, that will give your lots of head room and another 'storage' room on what essentially becomes a second floor. I had my trusses designed for free at Scugog Lumber, bought them there, was a great way to do it. You just stand the on top of the walls, and they become the walls, roof, and floor for the loft. Entropy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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