DRIFTER_016 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 Did some searching Dave,what do you mean by meat?,minnow ,worm,ham?thanks. I will run a cisco on a Rhys Davies rig behind the cowbells. http://www.bigwatertackle.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=18
BillM Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 Another tip, don't troll straight Lakers are notorious followers like Brian said, they also don't turn on a lure when they hit (This is why they never release the clip fully).. Zigzag is the name of the game. Also, if you're seeing fish and they aren't hitting the riggers, drop a jig on their heads and fish them vertically (then you can play the cat and mouse game) I had to do that today, worked out well in the Sound.
scuro2 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Flutter spoon - thin...my go to lure. The lakers seem to be moody, reflective tape at times works wonderful, but then again not. Flutter spoons, AC shinners, and even the rapella's with the little blade at the front worked beautifully in choppy sunny weather. Then there is flasher and dodger question. Lakers are tough because you have to find depth, location, speed, and what razzle turns their crank. Now if you are monster hunting the game changes and huge spoons and giant swim baits are the ticket. A good laker fishermen will get on fish if they are there because they know lakers moods like they know the moods of their wife.In a nutshell I go with the spirit of the day tells you and reflect that with panache in what I present Mr and Mrs Laker. I tweak all the time. Edited August 19, 2014 by scuro2
Wagoneer Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 For downrigging lakers I have my go-to lure. It's a light spoon, about 4" long that's neon pink at the bottom, goes to yellow/gold in the middle and then a bright lime green at the top. No idea what this colour combo is called, but I always have the best luck with it at long point. I call it the best of the 80's.
scuro2 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 I forgot to say the BC boys are nuts about Apex lures.
davey buoy Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Posted August 19, 2014 I forgot to say the BC boys are nuts about Apex lures. Need to look that one up,thanks.
adempsey Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 I like the Lucky Strike Half Wave Spoon in Nickel Personally, I think lake trout are stupid fish. If you find them and they are foraging you will probably catch them on almost any spoon or trout lure.
davey buoy Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Posted August 19, 2014 I like the Lucky Strike Half Wave Spoon in Nickel Personally, I think lake trout are stupid fish. If you find them and they are foraging you will probably catch them on almost any spoon or trout lure. Good to know,thanks.Like that pattern!!
misfish Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 I like the Lucky Strike Half Wave Spoon in Nickel Personally, I think lake trout are stupid fish. If you find them and they are foraging you will probably catch them on almost any spoon or trout lure. That is one of my fav pike spoons. Another tip, don't troll straight Lakers are notorious followers like Brian said, they also don't turn on a lure when they hit (This is why they never release the clip fully).. Zigzag is the name of the game. Another great tip Bill. Many fish will hit on the turn.
ctdd2006 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Horned Booby! Only spoons I use up here with the riggers. Awesome.
solopaddler Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Stumbled onto the Williams HQ spoons a while back and they're deadly! Also an excellent spoon for pike.
DRIFTER_016 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 My favorites are the Half Wave spoon, big flatfish (T50, T55 and T60's) and these Wolverine spoons are killer. They are super pike catchers too!!! Another good bait up here is a pair of lake trolls end to end followed by a 2-3# whitefish run off the downrigger.
AKRISONER Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 the action on these are friggin sweet As a lot of people have said and i think many people will agree, most fish are pretty dumb, and when they are biting they are biting. As long as you adjust your lures according to water conditions, I.E. brighter stuff when the water is murky just so the fish can see it, you are probably going to have a decent day. Same goes with Lakers, ive caught a relatively small one on a massive 5 of diamonds in the middle of the afternoon, while on another day ive fished for 10 hours in "perfect laketrout conditions" and marked and dragged past fish all day and never had a nibble. just like when the pickerels are biting, the same spot will skunk you one day and bring in 20 in an hour the next.
BillM Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Usually you want to use dark colours in murky water and bright colours in clear water. One of my fav baits to run down deep (10ft off bottom) is a black/purple NK28...
davey buoy Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 Dave, those spoons look familiar! What are you saying lol.I bought those 4 years ,maybe 5,when Fish Ontario was at the first service station behind the petro Canada.Asked him what was hot and never used them till now.Not so hot first time out lol.
davey buoy Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 24" lucky strike gang troll with a minnow following at about 18". Usually go bout 2.5 kilometers per hr. Some lakes copper colour is better, others silver. I use lead core rather than dipseys so u can work it. If its sandy botton dont b afraid of hittin bottom lots of times thats wen they strike. We both hit bottom in 53' of water first time.Full of mussells.Not sure in this area maybe not a good thing?My dipsey is copper.Thanks.
davey buoy Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 Dave---You can buy a needle to thread a snell thru the minnow---needle has a hook---loop on snell---pull thru and usually leaves a double hook out backside of minnow for trollin Ya don't want to just lip hook a minnow and hope it stays on So if I'm using a gang troll,it comes with a hook?treble?noting?.Wonder how I can use a snelled hook and attach to a hook that maybe there on the gang troll?.Thank you sir.
dave524 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) So if I'm using a gang troll,it comes with a hook?treble?noting?.Wonder how I can use a snelled hook and attach to a hook that maybe there on the gang troll?.Thank you sir. You'll have to supply the leader material , hooks and baiting needle. The top images and technique is very similar to what I do, but I just sew the mouth shut rather than the addition hook, I'm sure their method is equally good. They say the minnow must never spin, true to a point , you don't want the body arched till you get a fast spin but I prefer a very slow roll at trolling speed rather than running straight line. http://www.michigansportsman.com/Tips_n_Trix/sewn_minnows.htm The cut herring approach would be good if using larger baits. This was my Dad's and my standard rigging with downriggers on tough clear Haliburton Lakes. Never needed that much finesse on Lake Ontario. No experience with Simcoe. Edited August 20, 2014 by dave524
davey buoy Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 Gotcha,the ones you sent Bill?,to many Dave's lol.
DRIFTER_016 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Usually you want to use dark colours in murky water and bright colours in clear water. One of my fav baits to run down deep (10ft off bottom) is a black/purple NK28... Caught tons of GL lakers on black/purple and black/orange NK 28's and NK Mags. Sutton spoons were another good option for GL lakers.
DRIFTER_016 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Gotcha,the ones you sent Bill?,to many Dave's lol.
davey buoy Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks everyone,more to buy lol.need a few more lures to change it up a bit.Gang trolls look like a nice addition
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