fluorocarbon leader

[Cloudy15]

After reading the thread on line choice. I bought stren soinic braid 8lb 300yrds 32 bucks didnt seem like a great price and also bought stren fluorocast 10lb for my leader. Curious how you attach your fluorocarbon leader. I used a barrel swivel in the past with the plamer knot and found i was breaking off alot. I was curious is this line combo would make a good drop shot rig?

 

thanks

[davey buoy]

Is this a float rod?,if so i personally use a micro swivel under the float and than use a clinch knot for the leader from that to the hook.I'm sure you'll get a lot of great ideas.

[Richard S.]

Sorry though it was under a float.

 

 

Rich.

Edited September 16, 2012 by Richard S.

[Cloudy15]

Is this a float rod?,if so i personally use a micro swivel under the float and than use a clinch knot for the leader from that to the hook.I'm sure you'll get a lot of great ideas.

 

 

no not a float rod, dont have one never tried it. Sounds like i migh tbe missing out. Thanks for the responce

[davey buoy]

no not a float rod, dont have one never tried it. Sounds like i migh tbe missing out. Thanks for the responce

 

You can still use the same procedure. The idea is to make the line as invisible as possible. Two lines together is a different knot.

[BillM]

Improved clinch or palomar.

[mercman]

Regular cinch or palomar.Remember to lubricate the Fluro before tightening the knot.That may be why you are getting breakoffs.I usually use saliva to lubricate just before tightening.

One thing to consider.The flouro for leader material is a bit stiffer than flouro meant for mainline.Although some use mainline as leader material, i don't.

[Cloudy15]

Regular cinch or palomar.Remember to lubricate the Fluro before tightening the knot.That may be why you are getting breakoffs.I usually use saliva to lubricate just before tightening.

One thing to consider.The flouro for leader material is a bit stiffer than flouro meant for mainline.Although some use mainline as leader material, i don't.

 

Hmm never did wet my palomar knot, annoying if thats all it was. if using the palomar not your using some kind of swivel to joing the two lines... is it better to tie the lines direct?

thanks for the tip!

[Christopheraaron]

I'll join them directly, I can't remember the name but it's basically two overhand knots that slide together, I'm sure someone will know the name.

[mercman]

Hmm never did wet my palomar knot, annoying if thats all it was. if using the palomar not your using some kind of swivel to joing the two lines... is it better to tie the lines direct?

thanks for the tip!

 

 

Honestly, i dont think it matters to the fish either way. I Tie my flouro to a tiny very good quality chain swivel,with a regular cinch knot. i tie the Braid to the other eye on the chain swivel with a palomar knot.

I give myself about 18 inches of flouro, and tie a snap, not a snap swivel, to the end of my leader, useing a cinch knot again.

I always use snaps, and no one can convince me that tieing direct to lures catches more fish.Fish dont give a dang how your lure is attached to your line, and i have produced as many if not more fish than the people i fish with, who tie direct.I use the smallest terminal tackle that i can get away with, for the fish i am targeting.

Always lubricate flouro.It tends to heat up slightly as it pulls across itself during the tightening of the knot.

[mercman]

I'll join them directly, I can't remember the name but it's basically two overhand knots that slide together, I'm sure someone will know the name.

 

 

uni to uni

a real pain in the to tie

[Christopheraaron]

uni to uni

a real pain in the to tie

 

I've found it quite simple, the one you don't want to have to tie is the nail knot.

[davey buoy]

I've found it quite simple, the one you don't want to have to tie is the nail knot.

 

You need the nail knot for two different sized lines!

[BillM]

You need the nail knot for two different sized lines!

 

I've tied some stupid stuff together with the Uni-Uni, lol! And if it's that much of a difference, I'll use a XXXS barrel swivel.

[Moosebunk]

Uni to Uni for pretty much every connection. If the leader is a really thick diameter then an albright.

[kickingfrog]

Hmm never did wet my palomar knot, annoying if thats all it was. if using the palomar not your using some kind of swivel to joing the two lines... is it better to tie the lines direct?

thanks for the tip!

 

It's not the fish that it matters to, it's your line and line guides. On a baitcasting outfit where I'm not nearly as concerned about line twist it is almost always line to line (if I bother using a floruo leader). On a spinning set-up if there is a possibility of line twist I'll use a small float swivel and even then I hate to reel it through the tiptop, but invariably do.

[manitoubass2]

I would never reel a swivel through the guides, lol.

 

I use a pretty short leader (when I do use one), usually around 14".

 

I tie my mainline to a good quality barrel swivel (I prefer Spro). I use a palomar

 

I use a palomar or double palomar when I attach the fluoro to the barrel swivel.

 

Anytime I attach two lines together, its uni to uni. Then I'll use a pretty long leader, really just prevnt retying a bunch of times throughout the day. IMO, uni to uni is pretty simple, but it becomes a pain in crappy weather while in the boat. I'll do it, but I'd just rather not.

 

Always moisten your knots good, and I find it helps to cinch the knot slowly, whereas some people really tighten it down hard and fast.

[Cloudy15]

Thanks everyone why isnt there ever just one correct answer:)

[davey buoy]

Thanks everyone why isnt there ever just one correct answer:)

 

I guess you find one you like and works well and away you go.Your right,nothings easy.lol.

[SlowPoke]

I've found it quite simple, the one you don't want to have to tie is the nail knot.

I use the nail knot almost exclusively. It's easy with a Tie-Fast knot tying tool.

[kickingfrog]

Thanks everyone why isnt there ever just one correct answer:)

 

Different strokes and different conditions/situations.

[Dutch]

Uni-to-uni is a pain in the arse to tie for using leaders.

 

I use a triple surgeon's knot and haven't had too many issues at all. Very easy to tie.

 

Also - the conventional view is to NOT use a palomar knot for flouro. I stopped using it after I was breaking off far too often. I'd always break off at the terminal knot, not at the surgeons, which is what should really break first. I started using a uni knot, but through the eye twice and my break off issue stopped soon after.

[BillM]

That's the reason I no longer use the clinch knot for flouro and use the improved clinch instead. Had way too many hooks pulls loose with that knot. Maybe it's operator error, who knows!

[RickOnt]

For Braid to leader I use an 'Albright'

 

To snaps or Jigs, Improved Clinch/Trilene. Whatever you like to call it!

 

Rick

[Christopheraaron]

You need the nail knot for two different sized lines!

 

Oh I know it's just a horrible knot to have to tie.