iFish4real Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I just got the July issue of Ontario Out of Doors magazine and I read this article on page 12 called Licensing Privacy Risk saying that Ontario's licensing information is being stored outside the country, when you call MNR to purchase licenses you can hear a message about this but I've never really paid attention to it...this is quoted from the magazine: "Currently, Active Outdoors, a US-based company, administers Ontario's licensing, game-tag allocations and information collecting" I don't know what you guys think about this and I hope nobody feels offended, but to me...it's retarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 We've discussed this before and I don't see what difference it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoty Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I hear ya.... I agree that it should be stored inside Ontario. Let's make a trade..... Leafs 1st and 2nd rd picks for all of our stored info back! They're bound to trade them for USELESS players... at least we'd get something USEFUL back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigsnreels Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's all about competitive bidding for government services. If Active Outdoors submitted the lowest bid to the MNR for info admin services, and they can do the job as well as anyone else, then they get the contract, and I'm fine with that. After all, we're all ultimately paying for the service with our tax dollars, so if it keeps costs down and keeps our information secure at the same time, then it's all good. We start to get into problems when we see non-competitive contracts go out for government projects, and we end up with things like skate shacks for the Rideau Canal that cost $750,000 each... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 We've discussed this before and I don't see what difference it makes. Its just a computer server anyways.I was surprised to find out that the a/c units in most government and many public offices are controlled by computers and people in Navada and South America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Everybody in India has your home phone number and your bill payment history. Even Rachid called me yesterday to warn me that the freezer I bought at Sears is about to run out of waranty. His cousin Dipti asked him to remind me that I should also be looking to upgrade my life insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoty Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is that before or after your carpets get cleaned??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFish4real Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) yes of course competitive bidding...but what would you say if Canada would allow the imports of meat from China, India, wherever...it would be a lot cheaper right??? ...but it would kill Canadian farming industry and I would turn vegetarian And btw, if government makes some savings like this it doesn't mean they will tax you less It's all about competitive bidding for government services. If Active Outdoors submitted the lowest bid to the MNR for info admin services, and they can do the job as well as anyone else, then they get the contract, and I'm fine with that. After all, we're all ultimately paying for the service with our tax dollars, so if it keeps costs down and keeps our information secure at the same time, then it's all good. We start to get into problems when we see non-competitive contracts go out for government projects, and we end up with things like skate shacks for the Rideau Canal that cost $750,000 each... Edited June 19, 2012 by iFish4real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Cool the jets. This isn't like buying your swiss chard from china. I don't know where the data is stored, but most of the people building that software are based in Mississauga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Where's my tinfoil hat?!?!??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Shiny side out Bill. Don't forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskywizard Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Where's my tinfoil hat?!?!??! On a container ship coming from India. we'll all have to wear aluminium pots until it arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parisite Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 There is a little piece of legislation in the US of A called the Patriot Act which can put the privacy of Canadian's personal information at risk. The US govt can access any Canadian's personal information if that information is outsourced to a US company. If the MNR is outsourcing to a US based company and one of our names happens to match a name on the 'watch list' any info stored by that company can be accessed. On a side note, anyone traveling into or through the US carrying a smartphone or laptop can have the memory and hard drives searched by US officials without the right to refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 yeah my god, what if homeland security finds out I have a 3 year fishing license and my home address..... I don't see the big deal really..when they take over the canada pension and OHIP I will worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 There is a little piece of legislation in the US of A called the Patriot Act which can put the privacy of Canadian's personal information at risk. The US govt can access any Canadian's personal information if that information is outsourced to a US company. If the MNR is outsourcing to a US based company and one of our names happens to match a name on the 'watch list' any info stored by that company can be accessed. On a side note, anyone traveling into or through the US carrying a smartphone or laptop can have the memory and hard drives searched by US officials without the right to refuse. Conspiracy theory aside, what are you so worried about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) but you willl (if it applies to you, insert name) go on a fishing forum talk about home insurance, boat tax, incomes, family history, tax returns, marriage and divorce, sickness, colonoscopy results, death/birth in the family, lost job, got a job, want a job, got a ticket, neighbours dog barks, secret coleslaw recipe, etc. and then get freaked out cuz some yank knows yer address. Edited June 19, 2012 by smally21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Personally I don't care who knows I hunt. The stickers on my car take care of that. As for the choice of using American resources, yah that part bothers me. Keep it in Canada if possible. I am pretty certain a Canadian company could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Personally I don't care who knows I hunt. The stickers on my car take care of that. I have been looking for a decal that shows a bow hunter on a stand,with bow drawn. I have seen them,but cant find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Stand up and be counted or hide in the closet? I choose to be counted. I work and live smack in the GTA, 80 percent of my coworkers are liberal females. Every single one knows I fish and hunt. I have even taken a few fishing, and several want to come up with me to shoot some guns when I do some sighting in this fall. Edited June 19, 2012 by jedimaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Stand up and be counted or hide in the closet? I choose to be counted. I work and live smack in the GTA, 80 percent of my coworkers are liberal females. Every single one knows I fish and hunt. I have even taken a few fishing, and several want to come up with me to shoot some guns when I do some sighting in this fall. They want to learn to shoot,so they can protect themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Likely from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 LUNDBOY!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer8 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 but you willl (if it applies to you, insert name) go on a fishing forum talk about home insurance, boat tax, incomes, family history, tax returns, marriage and divorce, sickness, colonoscopy results, death/birth in the family, lost job, got a job, want a job, got a ticket, neighbours dog barks, secret coleslaw recipe, etc. and then get freaked out cuz some yank knows yer address. Shush. I'm after that secret coleslaw recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 well first there is mayonaise...wait...active outdoors has eyes everywhere. carry on like we weren't talking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 It's obvious whats going on here. The gov,t is priviticing everything to bust the unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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