Alfiegee Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Completely hypothetically,fly fishing on the upper Credit with barbless hooks. A 20 inch speck is hooked and landed. It is bleeding profusely from the gills and attempts to revive it fail. The upper Credit is a no kill zone, what do you do. It is illegal to keep the fish, but it is also illegal to abandon a fish or allow it to spoil. Hypothetically I hid the fish and got out of there. And hypothetically ate the evidence. What is one supposed to do? I wish I could have released the hypothetical fish as it would have been a good spawner and produced lots of young ones that also would have had the potential to reach that size. Alfie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 NOPE We dont make the laws. Saddly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hypothetically speaking it's unlikely you'd do much damage to a fish on a single point barbless fly. But it if happens the "no keep" rule supersedes the "allow to spoil" rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 we all deal with this with slot sizes and fishing seasons hiding it on shore would get you a ticket dropping it back in the water is the only legal thing to do...dead or alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Wonderful world we live in Huh? Member when you went fishin to get supper? OK Don't wish to start the great freezer debate but sometimes I gotta wonder?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfiegee Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hypothetically speaking it's unlikely you'd do much damage to a fish on a single point barbless fly. But it if happens the "no keep" rule supersedes the "allow to spoil" rule. Specks hit hard when they are hungry and you occassionally get one in the gills. I have fished specks since I was 6. 40 years to be exact. 95% of specks that are hooked in the gills will not live. My hypothetical fish was bleeding badly and could not be revived I tried. I should have hypothetically just let it float away to be turtle food? Alfie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky or Specks Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Specks hit hard when they are hungry and you occassionally get one in the gills. I have fished specks since I was 6. 40 years to be exact. 95% of specks that are hooked in the gills will not live. My hypothetical fish was bleeding badly and could not be revived I tried. I should have hypothetically just let it float away to be turtle food? Alfie. Yes because that is the law. And if you don't and get caught then you deserve whatever fine you get. Edited September 3, 2011 by Musky or Specks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfiegee Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I phoned the ministry and was told this is a very grey zone. Legally the hypothetical fish should have been released to be turtle food. But a C.O. may have seen things differently. The twilight zone indeed.. Alfie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfiegee Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Was the nicest hypothetical fish I ever caught, I only wish I could have live released it so it could spawn again. Alfie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 you must have talked to a call center in India because they have been dealing with this for years and there is zero grey area..it is clear it is well documented. give me the name of the person you talked to in the ministry and I will have them send you the correct answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 you must have talked to a call center in India because they have been dealing with this for years and there is zero grey area..it is clear it is well documented. give me the name of the person you talked to in the ministry and I will have them send you the correct answer... I have a cold drink somewhere,,,,,,,,,,,, Terry,you want to fish Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfiegee Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I have a cold drink somewhere,,,,,,,,,,,, :rofl2: Terry,you want to fish Monday? Can I come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Man.. I picked the wrong month to stop drinking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdritchie Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 The rule exists to prevent people from catching a fish, ripping the gills to shreds with their fingers or pliers, then using that as an excuse to take it home. Which, incidentally, people do all the time. "It would have died anyway" won't cut it with the CO. Get caught and there will be nothing hypothetical about the charge and fine. I'm just sayin ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 there definitely isn't a grey area. it's unfortunate but as long as you take every reasonable step to release the fish you've done your part and can not be charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Can I come? Ask terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfiegee Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Terry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinguypat Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 hypothetically speaking it can be done hypothetically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitbyboatguy Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 CYA: put a reasonable effort into and let it go. If you keep it you will be labelled as a poacher. Same thing if it is out of the slot limit. What on the surface seems like a contradiction is not. It is similar to catching a Muskie on a conservation license.....what happens if it dies? If an acceptable excuse for keeping a fish was that it could not be revived there would be no stopping people: 1) keeping more than their limit 2) keeping OOS fish 3) fish out of the slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossover Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Putting the dying fish back into the stream atleast provides nutrients for the ecosystem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfiegee Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Putting the dying fish back into the stream atleast provides nutrients for the ecosystem. I know that, but I'm talking about a beautiful speckled trout,hypothetically. Anyone else catch a 20 incher lately? Hypothetically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 i cant believe people would hypothetically eat ANYTHING out of the Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know that, but I'm talking about a beautiful speckled trout,hypothetically. Anyone else catch a 20 incher lately? Hypothetically? I've caught 20 inchers, but they sure didn't hypothetically go in any frying pans. I've seen people use the same excuse with a pile of bass on the ice next to them. I guess if you let them take the live worm in deep on those tiny trout hooks, oh sorry I mean fly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky or Specks Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Look at the post count. The guy is obviously an idiot and a troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashhopper Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Man.. I picked the wrong month to stop drinking.. Yep... what the heck are u gonna do when goofy season comes this winter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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