ckrb2007 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 People who I talk with around campfires at the trailer park I am a part of have been noticing a lot of fish remains in the water. Full carcasses, minus the fillets, and the skins of the fillets. We weren't sure where they were coming from. Well, today, dad and I were out fishing and I noticed a boat stop, and dump out a 5gallon pail of fish remains, then speed away towards the marina. I was a good distance away so I couldn't say anything but it was clear that it was remains. I'm just wondering if this practice is legal or illegal. There has been quite the bear problem this year so maybe it's a safe way to dispose of them?!?! I dunno. Cheers, Colin
mike rousseau Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I dump mine in the river... I don't think your supposed to... But I don't know what else to do with a bucket of guts... I just make sure to dump em in deep water far from swimming locations...
ChrisK Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Something smells fishy here. I think there's more than just dumping of fish guts going on...You didn't happen to get a head count on the carcass's in the water did ya ?
Joeytier Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Legal or not, it's clearly the best way to dispose of them as far as I'm concerned.
ckrb2007 Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Posted August 29, 2011 Something smells fishy here. I think there's more than just dumping of fish guts going on...You didn't happen to get a head count on the carcass's in the water did ya ? No, unfortunately I didn't nor did I go check them out. I probably should have. They could've been crappie for all i know. I was just curious about the dumping action at this time.
ChrisK Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 No, unfortunately I didn't nor did I go check them out. I probably should have. They could've been crappie for all i know. I was just curious about the dumping action at this time. If anything the turtles will be well fed.
rufus Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I did check that out once and as far as I could tell there is no problem with disposing of remains in the water. As I recall the guide explicitly says not to dispose of remains on the shore but makes no mention of chucking them in the water. I generally take mine to the dump anyway except when shore lunches are involved
Roy Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 You'd also have to keep a lot of fish to "often" have a bucket of guts.
redskullz Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I think the best way is to bury the guts and use the composted dirt for a garden...fish guts/carcasses make awesome fertilizer. I do throw in a few carcasses a tear while camping into weedy backbays where i see snapping turtles....the carcasses dont last long with them around!!
Joeytier Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 You'd also have to keep a lot of fish to "often" have a bucket of guts. I keep a bucket in the winter for perch and walleye fillets. Gotta remember to clean it out before mid-March rolls around...
kickingfrog Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Legal? I don't think so but I don't know. I do think there is a time and place however. Remote area and you don't want fish guts (aka bear chanel No 5 ) near your site. I think it's fine to dump the guts far away. Busy lake with lots of residents and kids swimming. Not going to make you the favorite on the lake. Lots of grey between those 2 extremes.
dave524 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 On occasion I've seen a good size flock of gulls following commercial fishing tugs on Erie, they appear to be well fed
ckrb2007 Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Posted August 29, 2011 Legal? I don't think so but I don't know. I do think there is a time and place however. Remote area and you don't want fish guts (aka bear chanel No 5 ) near your site. I think it's fine to dump the guts far away. Busy lake with lots of residents and kids swimming. Not going to make you the favorite on the lake. Lots of grey between those 2 extremes. The area where I saw the guy dump it was just outside an area where I fish for largies. This area right now has about 2FOW and is maybe 100-150m away from the trailer park and approx 500m away from the marinas of the lake. So, it's in the busiest areas of the lake but kind of out of the way due to the shallow water.
steelie hunter Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 It is illegal. I have seen a few people questioned by CO's while perch fishing on Lake Erie. Not sure if it could be because it contaminates the water even more, being a drinking source and all, but a lot of people do it.
mike rousseau Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 If there are turtles around... It's normally gone by morning... Usually the snapping turtles are into the remains in the boathouse before I'm done cleaning fish... 14-20 minutes...
tb4me Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 The owner of the resort we stay at in the summer, dumps his fish houe gut pail in the bay every morning..The turtles love it and they love it there..He asks us to sererate the garbage from the guts. The plus side to this is, you get to see tons of turtles of all sorts.
adolson Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Might not help if you're in the bush or whatever, but I clean my fish at home and I take the guts and skin and put it in a couple plastic bags and then freeze it until garbage day. I'm pretty sure that's legal, and if it's not, I don't have a clue how you're supposed to dispose of the inedible portions of a fish!
Twocoda Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 there is only one way to properly dispose of the remnants...but it requires a second trip to your buddies vehicle to pop the nicely tied up package after a few days in the sun
Fish4Eyes Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Might not help if you're in the bush or whatever, but I clean my fish at home and I take the guts and skin and put it in a couple plastic bags and then freeze it until garbage day. I'm pretty sure that's legal, and if it's not, I don't have a clue how you're supposed to dispose of the inedible portions of a fish! I put them in the compost bin. I don't even want to see the look on the guys face when he opens up the lid and gets a wiff
danbouck Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I was under the impression that it is legal if you are more than 100m from shore, but I may be wrong
FrankTheRabbit Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 Slightly along the lines of fish remains, what are your thoughts with filleting fish on rivers and what to do with the head and bones? I know that it is illegal to waste an entire fish on the stream (and I am against this), but taking the fillets and leaving the head/bones/tail can be beneficial to the surround environment. The nutrients can be absorbed by the local wildlife and I'm sure other little critters will take advantage of it as well.
greenfin Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I think the best way is to bury the guts and use the composted dirt for a garden...fish guts/carcasses make awesome fertilizer. ... Unfortunately, you will have racoons and skunks digging up your garden looking for scraps. Been there, done that - with disastrous results.
mercman Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I put my fish on ice, take them home, wrap in newspaper and fillet them the next day.The skin seperates easier. Then i freeze the balance and throw in the trash on garbage day.Personally, i dont like finding stinking remains on the shore when i launch.
Bernie Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 I dispose of mine on the rocks beside the cottage. The gulls, herons, crows and osprey have it gone in 15 minutes.
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted August 29, 2011 Report Posted August 29, 2011 if i'm not on a lake with camps everywhere i put them on a rock on shore and they don't last. i was told by a CO not to put them in the lake.
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