asdve23rveavwa Posted June 9, 2010 Author Report Posted June 9, 2010 Just to be safe have boating license, fishing license, ownership, insurance, registration, and one piece of photo id. If that does not satisfy them then there is not much that would.
POLLIWOGG Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Don't forget a document with a picture of you on it, all that stuff is useless unless you can show who you are.
NAW Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Pleasure craft licences are valid for a period of 10 years. If there are changes to your name or address in that time, you must update your licence by applying to Service Canada. Service Canada delivers Pleasure Craft Licensing at all of their offices across Canada DANG. I just changed my name! Add one more thing to my long list of new documents required..
Viking Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Now Im confused what to do, I inherited my boat from my grandfather who past away about 3 years ago. the boat is a 14' with a 9.9 and well I heard I dont need any paper work for the boat as its under 10hp but what about the trailer that was given with the boat? what do I need to do with that. as well as what do I do as I am looking at getting a used 25hp for my boat because I would then be over the 10hp no paper limit. any information would be appreciated My experience with both MTO for trailer registration and Service Canada for boat registration was real simple. I was amazed at how easy they made it. The people I dealt with were great. I bought a boat motor and trailer off a friend who passed away before everything got changed over to my name. His wife couldn't find any paper work for anything. MTO called the trailer homemade and gave me a VIN# to stamp on it (couldn't locate the # on the trailer) and an ownership. Put my plate on it and that was it. Service Canada couldn't find the boat in their system with the registration number I gave them off the boat so they just issued me a registration with that # and that was that. Neither office could find anything listed in the previous owners name but went ahead and transfered it to me anyway. I did have a copy of his death cert and bill of sale from his wife. Under the circumstances I was amazed at how easy they made it. I thought I was going to need a notorized affidavit and fight with them over it but they didn't even flinch. I'd just go an try to register it with as much info on the boat and trailer as you can get.
fish-miester Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 My experience with both MTO for trailer registration and Service Canada for boat registration was real simple. I was amazed at how easy they made it. The people I dealt with were great. I bought a boat motor and trailer off a friend who passed away before everything got changed over to my name. His wife couldn't find any paper work for anything. MTO called the trailer homemade and gave me a VIN# to stamp on it (couldn't locate the # on the trailer) and an ownership. Put my plate on it and that was it. Service Canada couldn't find the boat in their system with the registration number I gave them off the boat so they just issued me a registration with that # and that was that. Neither office could find anything listed in the previous owners name but went ahead and transfered it to me anyway. I did have a copy of his death cert and bill of sale from his wife. Under the circumstances I was amazed at how easy they made it. I thought I was going to need a notorized affidavit and fight with them over it but they didn't even flinch. I'd just go an try to register it with as much info on the boat and trailer as you can get. awesome thanks!
bigbuck Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Don't forget your hat size, shoe size, favourite food..............
pikehunter Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 I was told real recently by Service Canada that proof of registration was not proof of ownership. You need your bill of sale to prove ownership. They advised carrying both. Plus your pleasure craft card. Seems kinda silly to me. Almost need a filing cabinet on board to carry all the documentation. Life is getting to be a real pain in the We're being regulated to death! So lets see, we need proof of registration, proof of purchase, a boat operator license, a fishing license, a drivers license for photo ID, a passport if fishing along the border, a health card, a credit card just in case, a Pioneer gas card to collect your points, s Sobey's grocery card in case we get hungry, a AAA/CAA card, and oh ya, a Casino Rama players card if we happen to be fishing on Couchching or Lake St. John so we can pop in and give a donation to the 1 armed bandit. Did I forget any?
Viking Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 Life is getting to be a real pain in the We're being regulated to death! So lets see, we need proof of registration, proof of purchase, a boat operator license, a fishing license, a drivers license for photo ID, a passport if fishing along the border, a health card, a credit card just in case, a Pioneer gas card to collect your points, s Sobey's grocery card in case we get hungry, a AAA/CAA card, and oh ya, a Casino Rama players card if we happen to be fishing on Couchching or Lake St. John so we can pop in and give a donation to the 1 armed bandit. Did I forget any? Air Miles card. Don't want to miss out.
ctdd2006 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 Air Miles card. Don't want to miss out. Here's an interesting twist! A buddy of mine with no license (dui) wrote the test(while under suspension) and passed, and is now the "proud" holder of an operators card (still under drivers suspension)! I'm assuming...he operating his boat in possession of his new card, birth certificate and health card keeps him legal? I can't find where it says driver's license must accompany the "operator's" card but the judge clearly stated not to operate any "motorized" vehicles when he was sentenced....i'm guessing if he gets pulled over on the water here where the mnr and opp are without radios he walks??? What do you think? This has been a brown bottle discussion for two months now!
Rattletrap2 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 A few years back, I scanned a copy of my vessel registration and printed it out on a colour printer. I had it laminated at Staples to keep it waterproof. I now carry this document, my pleasure craft operators card, and fishing licenses! I carry the trailer ownership with the tow vehicle. Starting to be a real pain on a hot summers day when all you want to do is jump in the boat with a bathing suit on to go fishing! I have very limited dry storage space.
John Bacon Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 Here's an interesting twist! A buddy of mine with no license (dui) wrote the test(while under suspension) and passed, and is now the "proud" holder of an operators card (still under drivers suspension)! I'm assuming...he operating his boat in possession of his new card, birth certificate and health card keeps him legal? I can't find where it says driver's license must accompany the "operator's" card but the judge clearly stated not to operate any "motorized" vehicles when he was sentenced....i'm guessing if he gets pulled over on the water here where the mnr and opp are without radios he walks??? What do you think? This has been a brown bottle discussion for two months now! It wouldn't make sense to require a boater to carry their driver's license when they are boating because you don't need a drivers license to operate a boat. People under 16 can get a boaters card even though they are too young to drive a car. That doesn't necessarily make it legal for your buddy to drive a boat... I am sure there is a law against disobeying a court order. I am not sure if the OPP would normally check that.
ctdd2006 Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 It wouldn't make sense to require a boater to carry their driver's license when they are boating because you don't need a drivers license to operate a boat. People under 16 can get a boaters card even though they are too young to drive a car. That doesn't necessarily make it legal for your buddy to drive a boat... I am sure there is a law against disobeying a court order. I am not sure if the OPP would normally check that. My point exactly! We all make mistakes and trust this guy fully to take my kid fishing with him tomorrow....but the question remains if it's legal!?
Sinker Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 Try going hunting, with your boat in tow. Pretty soon I'm going to have a big folder to carry all my crap to be legal. Wanna know the worste part about it?? I've never been asked for any of it!! Been stopped many, many times. Never asked for boat registration, or gun registration. Never even been asked to see my gun license for god sakes. They look at my outdoors card, and check my safety gear, and have a nice day. Over regulated, under enforced.......such a crock of crap!!! S.
TroutnMuskieHunter Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 I'm confused as well after reading this thread....we bought a pontoon boat back in 1994 and got it registered...how the hell would anyone know that you need to renew it now every 10 years
Fisherman Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) I'm confused as well after reading this thread....we bought a pontoon boat back in 1994 and got it registered...how the hell would anyone know that you need to renew it now every 10 years Well it's all the nice people here that find things for you on the internet and post them just to see your colour change to red and blood pressure go up. Once a year or so I go to the MNR website and check for any updates, then Transport Canada Marine for any boating rule/safety updates, you get the picture.. Edited June 10, 2010 by Fisherman
TroutnMuskieHunter Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 Well it's all the nice people here that find things for you on the internet and post them just to see your colour change to red and blood pressure go up. Once a year or so I go to the MNR website and check for any updates, then Transport Canada Marine for any boating rule/safety updates, you get the picture.. I always check the MNR website for updates because MNR constantly have changes in fishing dates and other regulations.....But I remember asking the clerk at Transport Canada back in 1994 if we had to renew the vessel permit and he said it's good for as long as you own the vessel... ....very similar to my ATV plate which is good for the duration of me owning it without having to renew
Viking Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 until this thread I didn't know you needed to renew registration either. As far as proof of ownership does anyone really care unless they think you stole the boat? I think we can all relax though, soon enough we'll get notices in the mail to renew boaters cards, boat registration etc.....of course it will come with instructions on how to pay the new fees as well. I'm sure its just matter of time. As far as the guy with the suspended license. I don't know. I'm kinda of the opinion that you don't need a drivers license to drive a boat so why should it affect your boat license. But I don't know. If you were impaired operating your boat I'd bet they would take your drivers license though.
asdve23rveavwa Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Posted June 10, 2010 until this thread I didn't know you needed to renew registration either. As far as proof of ownership does anyone really care unless they think you stole the boat? I think we can all relax though, soon enough we'll get notices in the mail to renew boaters cards, boat registration etc.....of course it will come with instructions on how to pay the new fees as well. I'm sure its just matter of time. As far as the guy with the suspended license. I don't know. I'm kinda of the opinion that you don't need a drivers license to drive a boat so why should it affect your boat license. But I don't know. If you were impaired operating your boat I'd bet they would take your drivers license though. One of the reasons I asked the original question. Why need proof of ownership if your name is on the license form???????
Viking Posted June 10, 2010 Report Posted June 10, 2010 One of the reasons I asked the original question. Why need proof of ownership if your name is on the license form??????? Oh I completely agree. If there was a question of who owns the boat why would they let you register it in your name? It really seems like a stupid system but at least we're not being charged for it. If or maybe when they change it guaranteed it will cost us money
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