Golfisher Posted February 23, 2007 Report Posted February 23, 2007 Anyone know why Shimano reels are so much more expensive here in Canada than in the US? For example, Shimano Curado is sold for around $260 before tax and Symetre around $120 in Canada. If you were to order them from the US, they will only cost you around $200 for Curado and $90 for Symetre, including S&H charges. The strong loonie can't explain this since it's been nearly two years that the loonie has been flying high, and therefore any exchange-rate discrepancy should already have been reflected in pricing. What's more, Daiwa reels are priced similarly in both Canada and the US. So what gives? Are are being gouged here?
MJL Posted February 23, 2007 Report Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) I paid $113 Canadian for a Shimano baitrunner from BassPro in Michigan as opposed to around $165 (before tax) at BassPro in Vaughn. The box even says the warranty center is in Peterborough, On. Go figure Perhaps Canada can't compare with the quantity sold in the US. Hence the prices are higher to maintain a similar profit margin. Edited February 23, 2007 by MJL
irishfield Posted February 23, 2007 Report Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Because all Shimano products have to be purchased thru Shimano Canada due to Licencing rights. Even BPS can't bring them direct out of their own US warehouse to stock the Vaughn shelves. Thus another middle man that needs, a cut, to keep the lights on.... There is also a 5 or 6% import DUTY for fishing gear made offshore (ie not made in USA or Mexico) Edited February 23, 2007 by irishfield
Basskicker Posted February 23, 2007 Report Posted February 23, 2007 I hate spending my money outside of Canada....but I bought the Shimano Chronarch 51mg for $250.00 Cdn. taxes/shipping including delivered to my front door in 3 days from California. The EXACT same reel is $389.99 +taxes at Bass Pro (Vaughan)....go figure......Ebay is the only way to go....I've bought several items in the last 2 years and refuse to be gouged anymore... Jason
GbayGiant Posted February 23, 2007 Report Posted February 23, 2007 I too would rather purchase in Canada, but with internet sales, I always find better deals in the US on pretty much everything and they are not hard to find, after shipping, duties, brokerage fees and whatever else they add on it's still worth it. The only time I do stay in Canada is when the warranty is an issue.
outdoorguy61 Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 Operating costs. Pure and simple, it costs more to do business in a more northerly climate, as opposed to being further south. outdoorguy61
bucktail Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 Gouging. Then why do diawa and zebco and other products have a more reasonable price ratio compared to american dollars. You don't have to keep reels heated!!
Golfisher Posted February 24, 2007 Author Report Posted February 24, 2007 I'd imagine that duties, licensing, operating cots, volume discrepancy, etc are applicable to all companies, not just Shimano. What puzzles me is not that every reel is more expensive here than in the US, but that Shimano's pricing is exceptionally higher. I thought Curados were priced outrageously here; Basskicker's example of Chronarch is just insane. Sticking a price tag of $390 on the same reel that you can buy for $250... that's just not kosher.
Greencoachdog Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 It is because they have to use a special lubricant in the ones going to Canada, so when you set it down on a piece of tundra or permafrost it won't freeze solid! ... but seriously folks, I would contribute the higher prices to organized labor. Just my Dos Centavos
vanillagorilla Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 Being in a similar type of business selling branded products, each country has different channel & pricing strategies. Also, each country usually sets an exchange rate at which they calculate their pricing and once this is set it is set for the year, and usually does not change regardless of current currency fluctuations. Ihope this helps Mitch
Photoz Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 After reading this thread, I decided to just 'GOOGLE' a few fishing tackle sites, as I'm looking for a new Shimano Baitrunner 4500 & a Shimano Stradic 6000. It appeared that Cabela's had about the best prices, and both reels WERE indeed a lot cheaper at Cabela's . . . . . that was until you added on $13.75 EACH for shipping & handling, $3.50 EACH for brokers fee, then the U. S. dollar costs 16.8% over & above (credit card companies usually add a couple points to that) so, all of a sudden (if there are no more hidden charges) my 2 reels, listed at $110.00 + $160.00 have reached about $360.00. And then I would have to drive out to a warehouse in Mississauga to pick them up. Although I MIGHT get lucky, and NOT get dinged for PST & GST, it's NOT too likely! Or I could simply drive down to Fishing World Hamilton, pay about $20.00 more, and I've got 'em. If there's a problem with Cabela's, I gota pay to ship the stuff back . . . if there's a problem with F W, I call Mike or Nick . . . problem solved! So . . . . I can't see any REALLY big saving by buying stateside, considering some of the possible pitfalls. If we all bought locally, I suspect dealers could make a few extra bucks, and stay in business, which, considering how many give great service, is worth it. But . . .. if I have a fishing question to ask . . .. what's the chance a big bait shop south of the 49th can answer it? I do like to save money . . . . but I also like good, personal service . . . . . and will happily pay more for it!
spanky Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 (edited) i think it's all in where you shop, i'm relatively sure that Gill Finigans here in the Niagara area had/has Stradics for $165+taxes... cabelas is $120 U.S. plus convesion, shipping, brokerage, taxes.... as for the other reels, said tackle shop has the Quantum energy E760PT & E761PT reels on sale for $160. plus taxes CDN and Cabelas has them for $189. U.S. plus conversion, shipping, brokerage, taxes... just gotta look around, not all shops have huge price differences Edited February 24, 2007 by phat bassturd
mattyk Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 I just picked up a calcutta here in the US and with Taxes and and currency exchange it was $270 CDN. The same reel at Lebarons with taxes in was $330CDN. Thats a difference of $60. Thats crazy.
nofrills Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 No thats not crazy. Poke around on eBay a little. Last year, I bought the exact same Calcutta 400B that you did, and when all was said and done, I had it in my hands for just UNDER $200 Canadian. Brand new, in the box. Thats crazy. I'll never buy another in a store again.
Roy Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 And it only had one little scratch on it....right through the serial number....go figure.....
OhioFisherman Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 LOL GCD, better suits for the executives! Take a well established and thought of reel like the old style Curado, redesign it and the price goes up 70 bucks? Is it 55 percent better than the old model? Probably not, all the tooling was probably paid for to make the old style so more profit per copy, but not enough for the guys at the top? Prices on fishing tackle sold in Canada kind of baffle me anyway, even with the exchange rate they seem high.
walleyejigger Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 have u ever tried "dealing" with your local shops, i've had great success in it, i think that if u shop at a store a few times a year for all things, wether it be a rod or a pack of grubs, or even stop in every once and awhile for a chat to a point where they remember you, (don't have to be big budddies) they might be willing to drop prices for u and give you discounts for your business, works for me, i try and stop in at least once a month if i can even if it's just to browse, when i want to buy fishing gear or takcle i hardly ever pay ticket price anymore, doesn't hurt to try,
gaffer Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 i'd say the 2 main reason's are the duty that it costs on importing them from malaysia and china and also the fluctuation of the loonie. if you bring them across yourself you can usually hide the duty, retail stores can't though.....just the way it goes i guess.
nofrills Posted February 25, 2007 Report Posted February 25, 2007 (edited) . Edited February 25, 2007 by nofrills
GbayGiant Posted February 25, 2007 Report Posted February 25, 2007 And it only had one little scratch on it....right through the serial number....go figure..... I went through the whole ebay selling thing, it's hard to compete with the US there as well, they can offer way cheaper shipping, don't have to change the currency etc... There are a lot of actual manufacturers that have employers to sell their products on Ebay, and they do it for slightly over cost, witch is why you can find those crazy low prices from power sellers, I'm sure there are some stolen items on ebay but I'm guessing he got a receipt and papers with his reel. However if everyone buys of Ebay there will eventually be no deals to be had.
Gerritt Posted February 25, 2007 Report Posted February 25, 2007 no frills that is called humour. Pretty obvious to me... Gerritt
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