rbaquial Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Whats the LARGEST hook that can be used for steelheads? In contrast, whats the SMALLEST? Just a curious question...Right now I'm using size 8. Wondering if there's a need for a plethora of hooks? Also, is there a COMMON SIZE that can be used? Or, is there a particular reason an angler would choose a LARGER hook, over a SMALLER hook for Steelhead? Thanks OFC'ers! I hope to one day join the "Steelheader" group! Still chasin' after the "Illusive". RoB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwxr Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) anything bigger than 10 is snagging , i use 12-14 Edited April 1, 2009 by efka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelfuN Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 same with efka. i run size 12 and 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbaquial Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Based on 2 common replies, do you guys (KelFun & efka) advise I try using 12-14 size hooks? Do you think size 8 is too small?? (or is there such a thing as too small for steelhead) I'm asking, cause I'm new to this type of fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 8's are tooooo big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbaquial Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) 8's are tooooo big! Ok, now I'm officially confused... how does the hook-sizing/system work? It's #8 hook by Raven if that helps any.... Edited April 1, 2009 by Addikted2Fishin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 bigger the number, smaller the hook. 12, 14 and maybe 16's if your running single eggs or something.......maybe a #10 if its dirty and your running bigger bait. Sinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Use whatever hook size you want as long as your offering looks natural and you are not sacrificing hooking power. I use size 6 on 4 inch worms, size 8 on large roe bags and pinkies, mostly 10 an 12 on small roe bags and 12 and 14 for singles. muddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alumacraft Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 addikted you have too remember that all the hook makers use the system of the larger the # the smaller the hook but, their sizes will not be the same. A # 8 mustad 92141 is actual smaller than a size #12 raven specialist. There is even a difference in size from the same company if you look at a # 12 raven specialist and a #12 octopuss the #12 octopuss hook is much smaller.So depending on the hook maker no a #8 is not too big. I personally run Mustads 92141 in #8's also mustad 9523 in #10,12, and14's I also use Raven's specialist #10 & 12 and a #12 octopuss. Hope this clears up your confusion Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallacio Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) Use whatever hook size you want as long as your offering looks natural and you are not sacrificing hooking power. I use size 6 on 4 inch worms, size 8 on large roe bags and pinkies, mostly 10 an 12 on small roe bags and 12 and 14 for singles. muddler This is probably the best advise offered so far in this thread. It's all about balancing hooking power vs a natural presentation as the conditions and bait dictate. S. Ontario steelheaders are notorious for "over-finessing" everything from leader strength to shot size to hook size. Guys in Michigan laugh at us when we use "tiny" size 8 and 10 hooks. In fact, when Solopaddler and I were fishing the lower Manistee last fall we were running size 2's or even larger as we were using big huge bags for incredibly hot, aggressive fish. Using anything less meant a lot of pulled hooks, or even straightened hooks when really trying to muscle a hot fish. On the otherhand, if you are targetting spooky fish in clear water with single eggs, 14's or 16's are the way to go. Personally I generally follow what Muddler has described with Daiichi 1150's in size 10 being my go-to hook when fishing with roe under ideal or "green" conditions. Edited April 1, 2009 by wallacio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I usually run 12 or 14's... If I am running bags of death for stupid Lake E fish I'll use an 8... Just size it with your bait, if you are running big bags or skein like Dave mentioned, you need to upsize your hooks.... Also instead of just looping the hook through the top of the bag, I usually pull it through a bit and hook the tip through the side of the bag as well. Make's it as snagless as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I use Redwing Sabre hook, basically make the hook 1/2 the size of roe bag. I put a little exacter bend in the hook and when you do this you find out how tough this hook is. You won't bend these hooks removing them from fish. Garnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemper Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I always used to use daiichi size 12s, but after a ton of pulled hooks two weekends ago (I went 1 for 7 on thursday and 2 for 9 on friday) I switched it up to a size 14 raven specialist and landed 90% last weekend. I find the raven hooks to be larger than most others...also from personal experience DO NOT use the raven sedge hooks, i found them completely useless and I broke two hooks on a 4 lb lead in one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Being old school when I was back in TO I was running Eagle Claw style 42's in sizes 10, 12 and 14. When I started fishing in bigger flows out west I changed to Gami Octopus hooks in sizes 6 and 8 as I was continually straightening hooks with the old 42's even after stepping up to size 6's. I havent straightened a hook since. Out east you can get away with smaller hooks in the smaller tribs. Use something like a 14 for running single eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerpin_drift Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 i use purely Daiichi 1150 high carbon, size 12 shipped up from from a kentucky fly shop thats the only one that carries them anymore. i always use #12, even while floating a 8 inch worm down the river or roe bag or a single egg. any bigger hook, i feel ruins the natural presentation of a bait, depending on how many GPM the river is pushing. Oddly enough, i use bigger hooks like #10 B420 while floating or bouncing for specks, unless im fly fishing for specks, than i switch to #14, #16 dry fly. everyone's different, you'll find what works for you with time. cheers mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelfuN Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 hooks are a never ending topic... just stick with what you are comfortable/confident with, just make sure they are sharp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvio Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 10's and 12's thats all I use. Pretty sure I am not haveing any problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin elia Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I typically run Raven Specialists. I use different sizes depending on the size of roe bag or artificial I'm using. Try to have sizes 8-14 in your box so you're well prepared. J Edited April 2, 2009 by justin elia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 4/0 in a tube jig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) guy at the bait shop gave me 8's for roe bags! ( won't name the place) to fish for steelies of course! Edited April 2, 2009 by fishinFanatic69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 guy at the bait shop gave me 8's for roe bags! ( won't name the place) to fish for steelies of course! If you are using big bags, 8's are fine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbaquial Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) So, what would you guys are the most commonly used sizes? 10, 12 & 14?? I'm gonna pickup some tomorrow. Edited April 2, 2009 by Addikted2Fishin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I use 14's for pretty much everything... Pick up a few bags of each.. Unlike the Raven flouro, I haven't had any issues with their hooks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbaquial Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I use 14's for pretty much everything... Pick up a few bags of each.. Unlike the Raven flouro, I haven't had any issues with their hooks.. Do/Can you recommend a particular brand? Anyone else recommend BRAND and SIZE(s)? THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS/GALS! Edited April 2, 2009 by Addikted2Fishin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Gamakatsu Octopus Walleye/Steelhead Hook luorescent-colored octopus-style hooks are perfect for steelhead, trout and walleye rigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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