okumasheffield Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Went fish today and got snagged so many times to the point I was thinking about using regular mono leaders who are 2 times cheaper Have heard a lot about how great florocarbon is and wonder if it really does make any difference? some say florocarbon is less visible ... well, how can it be proven? some say florocarbon lasts longer ... any words from old-timers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike the Pike Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Well I was hard head one year ago and would not use the stuff but after several fishing trips with my friend GlennK I realized he was catching 4 fish to my one. Yes I now believe in the florocarbon leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 i would suggest that when the getting is good and you're catching lots you might not notice the difference but when fish are lockjaw or pressured, the low diameter/low vis fluoro might shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemper Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) NOPE I use good old 4 pound test Maxima ultragreen and hardly ever break off (1 fish this season, and it was my fault) Aside from the non breaking, I also catch a good number of fish all sans flouro Edited March 26, 2009 by kemper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Can't speak for others but as far as I'm concerned fluoro isn't the be all and end all like some make it out to be. I use it maybe 20% of the time when steelheading only when absolutely necessary (gin clear froggy water), mono the rest of the time. Learning how to read the water and present your bait properly is way more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shayne Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 "Mike the Pike" is correct!!! So is "solopaddler"!! I found out the hard way too!! Don't think it matters as much in dirty or highly stained water....But after a foot vis, I'm going to fluoro!! If your going to run regular mono...Go with small diameter like Ande's tournament 6lb!! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Can't speak for others but as far as I'm concerned fluoro isn't the be all and end all like some make it out to be.I use it maybe 20% of the time when steelheading only when absolutely necessary (gin clear froggy water), mono the rest of the time. Learning how to read the water and present your bait properly is way more important. I am going to agree with this statement. Only reason for this agreement is the fact that Solo gets it done like nobody I have ever seen before. Much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelfuN Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 what kemper said, maxima ultragreen is all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvio Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Presentation is key lots of guys run straight 6 and nail them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 It makes a difference icefishing, that is 100% for sure. I've seen it too many times now not to believe it. Any slow fishing days, I use it. If they are on, they're on......doesn't matter. It is much more abrasion resistant than mono too. It can take some abuse. For trib fishing, I'd use it if it was gin clear, but otherwise, there's no need. Like already said, presentation is key! Sinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Along with the visibility issue, fluorocarbon leader material has more abrasion resistance. So if you are likely to be encountering any toothy critters, tie on a foot or so of FC to the end of your line. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okumasheffield Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Some old timers told me that with mono leaders, you are supposed to change them after dipping in the water for 15mins because it deteriates .... is it true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Some old timers told me that with mono leaders, you are supposed to change them after dipping in the water for 15mins because it deteriates .... is it true? never heard of something like that, seems pretty stupid to me. Sounds like they were just trying to make you re-tie and take your spot LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I use good old 4 pound test Maxima ultragreen Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 In the big picture of things, I don't think it makes a difference... if it did, commercial netters would not have nets full of fish to pull up. If line spooked fish, they wouldn't swim head first into 100lb plus mono net strung arcoss the river or lake. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemper Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Ditto. The Canadian Tire near my house had it on clear out last weekend at 1.99! I bought them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Here's a pretty good test about fluorocarbon lines with interesting "conclusions" on visibility claims. Part 1: http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontest.html Part 2: http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbon2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Use it for ice fishing and for salmon fishing and for Musky fishing for the no stretch. It makes a difference ........ in these situtaions. I use reg mono leaders in summer for spinner rigs. I like the little bit of stretch for pickerel fishing,,,,I use braid for the main line though. there is more than river fishing after all.... .... Edited March 26, 2009 by gbfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemper Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Use it for ice fishing and for salmon fishing and for Musky fishing for the no stretch. It makes a difference ........ in these situtaions. I use reg mono leaders in summer for spinner rigs. I like the little bit of stretch for pickerel fishing,,,,I use braid for the main line though. there is more than river fishing after all.... .... how dare you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie66 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 It all depends on the type of presentation and water clarity. If you are presenting a horizontal moving lure going for a reaction strike then fluoro isn't necessary. But if you are drifting under a float in frog water and the water clarity is more then a foot then it can make all the difference in the world. When the guy next to you using a fluoro leader outfishes you 5-1 then you will learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 When the guy next to you using a fluoro leader outfishes you 5-1 then you will learn. How can you be sure that it's just the fluoro that is making the difference? There's a ton of other factors that might explain why a guy fishing next to you is out fishing you. The waters that I fish make gin look cloudy, and I do ok with straight mono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillj Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I have tried both under many conditions ... I prefer the way the mono behaves ... its actually that much more supple under cold conditions which makes it easier to present naturally .. also that extra stretch allows a more 'springy' hookset ... I feel I actually break off more often with flouro (all else being equal)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Floro is closer th the refractive index of water then mono is. That is what all the visibility clams are about. All my ice rods use floro or a floro mix. The abrasion resistance is nice. Mono will absorb water and "swell". YOu can really notice the colour change in the green lines available if you have a reel spooled with it. THe biggest advantage for those of us not on the tribs has more to do with durability. It's tough stuff, and doesnt take on water. I often use it as a leader material for my bass spinning outfit. Also made a couple worm harnesses outa some heaver floro, and then there is always the pike and muskey leaders made from the really heavy stuff. It isnt some miracle line as the advertising would have you believe. It's one more tool in the tackle box of tricks. Can it benefit your catch...Yes, Sometimes. -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhare Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I gotta agree with whats been said, mono will work just as well as fluoro. I have been using the chameleon and ultra green as long as I can remember with great results when drifting. In fact, because I bounce more then drift I often just run stright 6# in gin clear water with no problems. It all depends on the type of presentation and water clarity. If you are presenting a horizontal moving lure going for a reaction strike then fluoro isn't necessary. But if you are drifting under a float in frog water and the water clarity is more then a foot then it can make all the difference in the world. When the guy next to you using a fluoro leader outfishes you 5-1 then you will learn. hummm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleheader Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) As is true of much of today's technology there is a time and place, although I would not use Fluoro for anything but leader material for spinning/casting/trolling or tipett for fly fishing. I don't like the way it handles in general off the reel nor the way it reacts as a trapered leader off my fly rod. It definitely is less visible in the water which is a primary benefit, and it also is abrasion resistant, I believe it also sinks and is somehat stff. A properly tied wet knot is critical. Probably more unintended variation between manufacturers in fluorocarbon than mono, especially early on in the development. When conditions allow I avoid it, when they call for it I use it. Edited March 26, 2009 by doubleheader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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