Rizzo Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 Was looking for some emerald shiners yesterday for some hammerhandle pike action. Because I know a dozen at Simcoe Bait and Tackle is 5.00 I didn't worry that I only had 8.00 with me. When I stopped there they had no minnows. No problem, I know there's a place in Fesserton on the way north called Huronia Bait and Tackle. Unfortunately my 8.00 wouldn't get me a dozen there. 6 crappy little emerald shiners cost me 6.45! Broke my bank but at least I still got to fish a bit.
Paully Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 that is expensive! did you catch anything on thoes dollar minnows?
smokin joe Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 WOW! Is it a supply and demand thing? That's a lot for a half dozen, I'm used to paying 5.00 for a large scoop
OhioFisherman Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 WOW! it`s been a long time since I bought bait! That price makes me glad!
Rizzo Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Posted March 22, 2009 ya, I was pretty surprised by the price. Expecting a good day I would have bought more minnows but they didn't take credit card. Luckily I did have a good day on the water. Had some frozen chubs (4 inch) with me to so I split my time between the shiners (2.5 inch) and dead bait on bottom. Ended up going 7 for 13 in only 3 hours so the fish were really on. Live bait and dead bait were pretty much equally effective. All pike were typical 2 pound snotrockets.
bigugli Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 The shop in Fesserton is the only one left in the area and gets to charge whatever they want in the lower Muskokas. Your only options south of Mactier are Midland or Orillia, and they know it.
Billy Bob Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 Here's my answer to VERY expensive bait (if you can even get any). http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...rset=ISO-8859-1
bigugli Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 Here's my answer to VERY expensive bait (if you can even get any).http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...rset=ISO-8859-1 Great little tool for when the ice is out. There is still lots of ice up in the Skokas.
tschirk Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Goldfish @ Walmart $0.57 ea Edited March 22, 2009 by Ted & the Gadget
OhioFisherman Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 LOL Ted, my brother used to raise them in moms little backyard pond, walleye and smallies ate them like candy on lake erie.
xeon Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 Goldfish @ Walmart $0.57 ea Getting Ticketed for Illegal bait....Priceless.
pikeie Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 Getting Ticketed for Illegal bait....Priceless. haha got to wonder where these invading species came from eh! lol
issamhay Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 well its pretty much impossible for goldfish to survive Canada's winters, so theres no worries.
Rizzo Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Posted March 22, 2009 Anyone know if "Muskey's Lodge" or the place ion Mactier sell minnows? Both advertise live bait but that likely means worms during the summer months
Billy Bob Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 well its pretty much impossible for goldfish to survive Canada's winters, so theres no worries. Ah, most goldfish are just carp...........
Burtess Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 well its pretty much impossible for goldfish to survive Canada's winters, so theres no worries. Yeah, where did you hear that one???????
hammercarp Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 well its pretty much impossible for goldfish to survive Canada's winters, so theres no worries. Absolutely wrong.
hammercarp Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Ah, most goldfish are just carp........... Wrong again.
pikeie Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 ya buddy im also wondering where u heard that? friend's of mine have a small pond on there property with goldfish in it...... they dont take them out over winter, and every spring the goldies are still in it.
Bob Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Not only do they survive our winters, they grow to quite a size in the wild. They are in the carp family and classified as minnows. Imagine a 30 lb carp classed as a minnow? It's true.
xeon Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Hahaha this is funny. I think its about time someone posted this: http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/regions/central/p...appats-on_e.pdf Seriously, I think people need to read it. Its the baitfish primer, shows you what species are legal and illegal. Help protect our waters from being aquariums.
OhioFisherman Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Laws are a bit different here in the states than up there, with good reason. We are more of a warm water fishery, trout except stocked species are a tough deal to find here. Some of the large baitfish will compete with trout for food. Not a good idea though to ever use any baitfish that isn`t found naturally in the waters you are fishing. xeon, a very good list. It`s been a long time since I have been to Ontario, but even the bait stores up there that I went to made mistakes, Granted it is hard to look at every "minnow?" in the tank, but I have gotten small smalmouth, small brook trout and a moon eye as bait from bait stores up there. Ya goldfish are carp, and tougher than you think, they were in Lake Erie when I was a kid and still are. Back in the winters of 78-79 which were pretty severe for us here a lot of small lakes and ponds had massive fish kills. Too much ice and snow on top the ice, oxygen depletion kills. Seemed like it killed everything but the carp and goldfish in some waters, a lot had to be restocked. Not unusual here to be fishing along the shores of Lake Erie and see a 2-4 pound goldfish swimming around, usually have to get into calmer back bays and tribs to see smaller ones. Back in the 60`s I used to see carp at Pointe Au Baril, sort of a surprise to me as a kid, I also thought the waters were too cold for them.
hammercarp Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Goldfish are a type of carp" carassius auratus", the common carp is "cyprinus carpio". They can and do interbreed to create hybrids. Gold fish do not grow near as big a common carp do. A 4 lber would be a big one. Koi are the same fish as common carp except they have been bred for colour. They do get big and can be very expensive to buy. None of them should be used as bait.
DRIFTER_016 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 well its pretty much impossible for goldfish to survive Canada's winters, so theres no worries. No so, I saw one in Toronto harbour that went about 5 pounds!!! I don't think it got that fat in one summer.
tinbanger Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Xeon ,thanks for posting that ! I 'm always surprised how many people I see dumping thier bait buckets into the lakes instead of destroying the bait. I've mentioned it the odd time and get varying responses TB
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