Inauguration day

[cram]

Not terrified, actually exactly the opposite.

 

I've taken the time to study history, and what the powers that be write about their plans for the future, they hide nothing. They don't have to, barely anyone pays attention. So much so that people can't even see the tyranny being implemented all around them on a yearly basis let alone a weekly basis. Most won't even read their official documents, books etc. that I've referenced (like the two above). You would rather not look and think I'm paranoid than prove to yourself that the world may not be what you think.

 

Everyone in this thread that says that they back Obama or "have studied" him enough... have not dug deep enough. Have not investigated the histories and policies of the people he has stacked his administration with, or the citizenship of some. They also haven't looked into the history of his mother, whom she associated with in the 60s, or what foundations she is/was involved with. No, they let the media tell them what to think, and what opinions should be theirs. Do any of you actually notice yourself parroting the same talking points around the water cooler at work that you just heard on TV the night before? Hmmm...

 

So, for those that refuse to look at the past and backgrounds of the "new" administration to form their own opinions by all means, celebrate the crowning of the appointed one, and go back to hoping for "change".

 

Maybe if more people faced what is happening around them and quit living in denial, the world would be a better place today, because we truly have let it become what it is and what it will soon be. The time for hiding in happy land is just about over.

 

Have you ever wondered why you find conspiracy and hidden agenda in EVERYTHING? You're the common denominator

[hammercarp]

Lundboy don't worry. Bill O'reilly will watch out for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/index.html

One if by land, two if by sea.

[irishfield]

Thank god for freedom of speech in this country.

 

Bet you think Oswald really shot JFK too Cram.

 

I watched most of the day while working in the shop. Too bad Teddy stole the show at lunch.

[Dusky]

We'll all find out soon enough what he is all about.

 

Google obama NLP to get the idea about his public speaking abilities.

 

 

[/i]Don't kid yourselves, Obama's reign is going to be history making alright.

 

 

If you are speaking of the following link, then the narrator use the very same technique what he is accusing Obama, and funny is he included his own political agenda in between as well. Is this not called propaganda?

 

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message649781/pg1

[OhioFisherman]

Take a look at our battles with communism, the cold war, not really communism, a dictatorship painted a different color and given a different name. A system designed by those seeking or in power to keep them there.

 

To a lesser extent we have the same the same game played here? Minus guns? The party in power is attacked by the party seeking power.

 

I hope he does well, no point in a big debate over it now, he hasn`t had time to do much. The wage freeze on his staff seems like a wise move, anti-lobbying moves for his staff is a plus, transparency? not everything has to be a secret? Unless your hiding something?

 

It`s America, we do tend to over do things, hype them up, time tends to sort things out.

[Guest lundboy]

Have you ever wondered why you find conspiracy and hidden agenda in EVERYTHING? You're the common denominator

 

Ever wonder why you have the inability to put two and two together?

 

I don't find conspiracy in everything... I simply keep my eyes open to what's going on. Not my fault that you are too blind to see it happening. If you can't even see the changes since 9-11 to your life and freedom in 8 years, and refuse to even lift one book written in 1970 I might add, by one of Obama's handlers and read what he thinks/plans (and the fact that they have implemented at least 50% of what he stated in one book alone in the last 8 years), then yeah I guess I DO see a problem with just about EVERYTHING. Here I'll even make it easier for you, it's only about 170 pages, but I know you won't even touch it, too scared to learn, too lazy to take a the time, you know it all....

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2520536/Zbigniew...etween-Two-Ages

 

It describes the transitions from the cold war (op) to a post cold war world, and it's playing out like a script.

 

Don't criticize until you at least take the opportunity to learn.

Edited January 22, 2009 by lundboy

[Chris]

Can any Obama supporters name just one policy or one plan that he has. I have yet to hear any. His speeches that I saw were spoken in platitudes. Phrases like "new start", "change", all those other feel-good but very vague sound bites.

 

Those that don't see this as a monumental event for our American neighbours, have no knowledge of history, or appreciation of our shared heritage. They also do not understand how the US, the most powerful nation in history, affects the world.

 

So anybody that doesn't agree with you just doesn't understand or have any knowledge right???? Hahaha good one!!! Typical left-wing attitude. What is monumental about a new president of the USA? Yes he has inspired many US citizens. While that gives people hope in tough times, that's about all it does. A (liberal) friend of mine has been praising Obama for the last several weeks, caught up in the hype. I asked him if he knew what any of Obama's policies were......nope, nada. Caught up in the hype I'd say. It is monumental that a black person has become the president of the USA.....does that gaurantee that he is qualified for the job???

 

I tend to want to hear substance rather than the same old touchy-feely rhetoric, but that's just me. Too many presidents and prime ministers voted into power based on their personality rather than their policy. More like a popularity contest. But I guess that's important to many people so what do I know???

 

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade........

 

Like I quoted once before......"meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - The Who

 

Time will tell whether or not he's just another politician. I'll do like Lundboy and say it now....."told ya so".

[Guest lundboy]

If you are speaking of the following link, then the narrator use the very same technique what he is accusing Obama, and funny is he included his own political agenda in between as well. Is this not called propaganda?

 

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message649781/pg1

 

Everything is propaganda, Edward Bernays (Freud's nephew) was the master of it. We have all been under the total influence of his methods since the 1920s.

 

It's called using discernment... one has to weigh all sides and make up their own mind as to what makes sense to them after looking at as much evidence as one is allowed to see. That is one piece of the evidence. Just listening to what we are told to believe by any one source of information/media is our downfall and is how the majority of the population of the world is manipulated and indoctrinated.

 

Neural Linguistic Programming (NLP) is real, it's used day in and day out, and I know politicians (personally) at the municipal levels that take courses in it regularly to win votes and get the buy-ins they want on unpopular policies. One can sign-up for courses here: http://www.nlpcanada.com/ Or choose your favourite university. This manipulative method including the Delphi Technique are used on all off us daily by radio/tv personalities, corporate execs, politicians and maybe even some of your friends and relatives. If you don't know what it is and how it works you will never be able to see it being used on you.

 

Thank you for at least doing the Google searches, this tells me that some people are still thinking for themselves.

[Guest lundboy]

Lundboy don't worry. Bill O'reilly will watch out for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/index.html

One if by land, two if by sea.

 

Bill O'Reilly disgusts me.

 

I do not subscribe to the left-right paradigm game. I do not think that there was anyone different from Obama in the running... all politicians are corrupt on both sides of the border, and the agenda moves forward regardless of the party in power. Many presidents have made departure speeches or statements how they regretted following the agenda after the fact included Eisenhower and Wilson. Even Kennedy made reference to it before his murder.

[holdfast]

Can any Obama supporters name just one policy or one plan that he has. I have yet to hear any. His speeches that I saw were spoken in platitudes. Phrases like "new start", "change", all those other feel-good but very vague sound bites.

So anybody that doesn't agree with you just doesn't understand or have any knowledge right???? Hahaha good one!!! Typical left-wing attitude. What is monumental about a new president of the USA? Yes he has inspired many US citizens. While that gives people hope in tough times, that's about all it does. A (liberal) friend of mine has been praising Obama for the last several weeks, caught up in the hype. I asked him if he knew what any of Obama's policies were......nope, nada. Caught up in the hype I'd say. It is monumental that a black person has become the president of the USA.....does that gaurantee that he is qualified for the job???

 

I tend to want to hear substance rather than the same old touchy-feely rhetoric, but that's just me. Too many presidents and prime ministers voted into power based on their personality rather than their policy. More like a popularity contest. But I guess that's important to many people so what do I know???

 

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade........

 

Like I quoted once before......"meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - The Who

 

Time will tell whether or not he's just another politician. I'll do like Lundboy and say it now....."told ya so".

 

Obamaism has even infiltrated Canada. 81% Canadians think he Can do a Better job than our current Leader who by the way tried to save 20 Billion on Tax payers electoral money and freeze Government salary, that kind of sounds similar to Obama only now after the two Idiots form a Coalition with a Separatist, now they're going to Spend that your Kids, Kids and their Kids will be paying for. Hey the USA never had a Woman President. Remember ours, that was pretty monumental, although she was a world Joke. I agree on what you say. The Obambasism is a lot of Hype despite no Substance and its the Touchy, feely generation that's fueling it. I think there will be a lot of Disappointment on what he does about Iraq. It'll be interesting till this all calms down. I hope he does good because it'll only do us good when it boils down. Oh I love when LundBoy slithers out of the weeds every once in a while. Im watching a Paranoid Spinmaster in action each time. Its amusing.

Edited January 22, 2009 by holdfast

[Greencoachdog]

OH BOY!!!

 

Canadians talking about American politics again!!!

 

Why can't y'all talk about your own?... or go fishing???

[tinbanger]

It just yours is much more interesting , and they dress better too!LOL

 

As for GOOGLEboy ...can't say he's not opinionated.

 

TB

[ehg]

There really isn't a lengthy history for Obama, his presidency is a bit of a fluke.

 

4 years ago Illinois Senator Jack Ryan had to leave office due to a scandal, his wife was Jeri Ryan (Boston Public, Star Trek: Voyager). Seems he wanted her to have sex at private clubs he attended to her dismay, when this became public knowledge that was the political end for Mr. Ryan and opened the door for Obama to be Senator of Illinois. Four short years ago.

 

Indirectly Jeri Ryans attractiveness is the reason for Obamas presidency.

 

No matter what Obama will be seen as a person of 'colour'. The fact that he is now president is therefore historic.

 

This will change the perception of the United States on the world stage, perhaps leading to a more positive climate of consciousness on this planet today.

 

Despite the paranoid rantings of some, truly and historically there has never been a better time for women and children

than there is in Canada and the USA today.

 

 

 

 

What i've learned from this thread is that buying a Lund doesn't help you catch fish or gain historical intelligence.

[Guest lundboy]

What i've learned from this thread is that buying a Lund doesn't help you catch fish or gain historical intelligence.

 

And NOT studying your history does not give you the grounding needed to see and understand what is happening today. History truly does repeat itself, and the only reason it does is because civilizations fall for the same scams by the elite time and time again.

 

You have not learned anything.

[OhioFisherman]

Grew up in an inner city war zone, Cleveland, Hough roits, mutual distrust. Seemed like you learned how to fight pretty quickly, the smart ones learned when to fight, when to explore another option, quickly. Other options are the method I recommend.Strangely most of the times I have had to fight have been with people of my own color.

 

If you think this could have happened back then? Guess again. Nice to see maybe people are putting the best interests of the country first?

 

America, an experiment in democracy, and we are still trying to get it right, easier with out fighting.

 

Don`t mind hearing other people opinions, no matter what country. A small world.

 

Not yet but were working on it?

[POLLIWOGG]

We would talk about our own politics but our guys quit 2 weeks after the election and said they would be back in 2 months with some ideas, the 2 months is almost over. The minority party in power had the support of a separatist party but now the separatist are leaning away from them, so it should get interesting.

 

The milestone will be passed when the U.S. can elect a black guy or a woman and its no big deal, then its time to celebrate.

 

The fun thing about American politics is we know that everything we say here is being monitored by some U.S. security outfit that probably has a file on OFC because of our American friends here.

[OhioFisherman]

LOL Polliwogg a file? Ontario fishing nuts?

[hammercarp]

The question has been asked why we Canadians talk about American politics. There are several reasons.

When I was a young lad in a b&w six channel universe American politics was some of the best stuff on TV.

 

Past PM Pierre Trudeau said that "when you sleep beside an elephant, one cannot but help noticing every twitch".

 

Also we are your neighbours. Don't you talk about the nieghbours next door? I think you would if they were as loud and boisterous as the US is. It's like being beside the worlds biggest out of control block party.

 

Lundboy I believe you when you say that gov'ts try to control their populations. That's what we elect them to do. I also cannot help but wonder if all political factions are seeking to control our minds, don't they tend to cancel each other out. Corporations, companies, businesses all seek to do this as well. You can take management and supervisory courses that teach you how to manipulate people. Marketing is all about that as well.

[jonnybass]

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

 

Read this or don't read it, I really don't care. But for those of you who so quickly dismiss Lundboy, why not take 5 minutes and read this. Then come back and we'll talk.

 

When I was growing up in the Inwood section of upper Manhattan, I remember when I was about 12 or 13 years old I had my first contact with discovering what a “front” was for another business. It was called Tack’s Tackle Shop. When it first opened, it looked like just another business. The guy in the store, Tack, was selling fishing rods, live bait and an array of fishing equipment. It didn’t take long before the kids in the neighborhood figured out that perhaps there was something else going on. The live bait in the window wasn’t alive anymore and local hoods and gangster type people seemed to be going in and out, particularly in the evenings and none of them looked like fishermen. It wasn’t long before the place was raided by the NYCPD and my friends and I all watched from across the street on Sherman Avenue as “Tack” came out in handcuffs along with a bunch of other men. We were later told that Tack’s Tackle Shop had actually been a front for an illegal gambling operation.

 

A “front group” can be any entity that is set up to appear to be a legitimate independent organization, like Tack’s Tackle Shop, when it is actually controlled from behind the scenes by another organization or group of individuals. These front groups are often legitimate businesses, social or political organizations, professional groups, advocacy groups, research organizations, etc. Organized crime has used legitimate front organizations for many decades to launder their income from various illegal activities. Pharmaceutical companies have used front organizations to advocate for the drugs they manufacture. International terrorist organizations have their front groups here in the United States and as the evidence clearly shows, so do the international bankers.

 

After researching the formation and activities of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) it appears that it may be a very sophisticated version of “Tack’s Tackle Shop.” The CFR was specifically set up to carry out the goals and objectives of international bankers so that the public positions taken by the CFR would appear to be independent positions that could not be directly connected to the international bankers who personally control and fund the CFR.

 

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was founded in 1921 by a very select group of international bankers, Wall Street lawyers and wealthy “old money” families sometimes called the Establishment or the Elites. Among the CFR’s founders were JP Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, “Colonel” Edward House (Marxist. globalist and close advisor to President Wilson), Paul Warburg (international banker), Otto Kahn and Jacob Schiff (both international investment bankers). The CFR’s stated purpose at that time was to improve the understanding of US foreign policy and international affairs through the exchange of ideas. The select membership has been gradually expanded over the years, now totaling around 3,800 and includes various professionals, corporate CEO’s, college presidents, media owners and reporters, high-ranking government officials and even high ranking US military officers.

 

These same international bankers that started the CFR were instrumental in getting President Woodrow Wilson to sign the Federal Reserve Act into existence in 1913 that basically gave these international bankers the power to print money and control our entire economy. To show you the mind set of this core group, one of the founding CFR members, Edward House, authored a book in 1912 entitled “Philip Dru: Administrator” in which he laid out a fictionalized plan for the conquest of America. In the book, he told of a conspiracy by which a group of wealthy businessmen would gain control of both the Democratic and Republican parties and use them as instruments for the creation of a socialist world government.

 

After signing the Federal Reserve Act into law, President Woodrow Wilson later admitted, "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country….(America is) no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." He was, of course, talking about the international bankers and the creation of the first great nationwide “front organization” called the Federal Reserve that was designed to directly benefit the international bankers at the expense of the American taxpayers.

 

The late Carroll Quigley (mentor and advisor to President Clinton) who was a long term member of the CFR, wrote in his book “Tragedy & Hope”: "The CFR is the American Branch of a society….which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."

 

Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former member of the CFR for 16 years, sounded the alarm about the real intent of the CFR and pointed out that there was two separate cliques within the CFR:

 

1. The first and most powerful clique wants to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and national independence of the United States.

 

2. The second clique of international members is comprised of Wall Street international bankers and their key agents who want to receive a world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in control of global government.

 

Congressman John Rarick, a recipient of the Bronze Star and Purple Heart in World War II and a Democrat from Louisiana who once argued with his party over its increasing liberalism, said, "The CFR, dedicated to one-world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication-media, should be familiar to every American concerned with good government, and with preserving and defending the U.S. Constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet, the nation’s right-to-know machinery, the news media, usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain conspicuously silent when it comes to the CFR, its members and their activities.”

 

 

By using the CFR as a front organization to push their globalist agenda for America and the world, the “Establishment Elites and International Bankers” have managed to gain significant influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of our government. They can not only advocate their new world order ideas from within the government by using their CFR members in high government positions, but they can also use individual CFR members and research groups financed by their non-profit foundations to bring pressure from another direction. The international bankers use this process to implement the step by step decisions that will gradually convert the US from a sovereign nation to a subservient position in the new world order run by appointed bureaucrats selected by the international bankers. The CFR is being used much in the same manner as “Tack’s Tackle Shop” was used by an organized criminal group. The international bankers behind the CFR want to give the public the outward appearance of legitimacy in order that they can slowly accomplish their illegal objectives to usurp the US Constitution and the sovereignty of this country.

 

 

Many of the most influential international bankers, Wall Street CEOs, politicians, academics and media owners and TV personalities are members of the CFR. They join the CFR for the same reasons that other people join similar business organizations: to make political or business contacts, to enjoy the prestige of being in the organization or to simply use their connections to make more money. The CFR in turn, uses the broad influence of these people and their organizations to slowly infiltrate their globalist ‘New World Order’ plans into American life. CFR members and their ghost writers author scholarly articles that are designed to specifically affect public opinion and future government decision making. These authors and researchers are oftentimes funded directly by one or more of the international bankers’ non-profit foundations. The CFR’s well paid academics expound on the wisdom of a united world and the CFR media members disseminate the message.

 

 

In the 1940’s, President Roosevelt began bringing CFR members into the State Department and they have dominated it ever since. CFR members were instrumental in the creation of the United Nations. The American delegation to the San Francisco meeting that drafted the charter of the United Nations in 1949 included CFR members Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, John Mc Cloy and the Secretary-General of the conference, Alger Hiss, who was later arrested as a spy for Russia. In all, the CFR sent at least forty-seven of its members in the United States delegation, effectively controlling the outcome.

 

 

These same CFR members were also instrumental in using our country’s new membership in the United Nations to create the concepts of “limited wars” and “police actions” that were designed to circumvent the US Constitution and permit an administration to send our troops to war without a formal Declaration of War. It should also be pointed out that these two concepts benefit the international bankers and large corporations most because they allow these entities to make huge profits by providing financing and/or equipment and products to the enemies of our country during the conflict. It definitely did not benefit the US military men and women who were wounded or died in these conflicts. If a Declaration of War was declared, these same bankers and corporation CEO’s would be charged with treason for aiding the enemy during a time of war.

 

 

James Warburg, a CFR member and son of CFR founder Paul Warburg testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950, defiantly telling the Senators that: “We shall have world government, whether or not you like it – by conquest or consent.”

 

 

On November 25, 1959, the Council on Foreign Relations published “Study No. 7”, which openly declared its true purpose to bring about a New World Order through the manipulation of U.S. foreign policy and through international economic interdependence:

 

· "...building a New International Order [which] must be responsive to world aspirations for peace, [and] for social and economic change...an international order

...including states labeling themselves as 'Socialist.' "
 
The plan for the New World Order and the ultimate control of America by the international bankers, was clearly outlined once again in the April 1974 issue of “Foreign Affairs” the Council of Foreign Relations’ own publication, when CFR member and former Secretary of State Richard N. Gardner, wrote an article entitled “The Hard Road to World Order” in which he stated:
 
· “In short, the house of world order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned assault…” one way to garner public support for new international treaties would be to propagandize world wide predicaments. If people are scared of terrorism, financial chaos or global warming, they will be willing to cede their national sovereignty, freedom and liberties for global authority.”
 
Since the FDR administration, all transition teams and administrations have been full of CFR members. It didn’t matter whether they were liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican. The Nixon administration had over 115 CFR members all in key Executive branch positions, most of who continued into the Ford years. Ronald Reagan wasn’t a CFR member, but his Vice President George HW Bush was a CFR member, and so were 28 members of his transition team alone. The Clinton administration had over 150 CFR members in key executive positions. George W. Bush is not a CFR member either, but his father and uncle are, his Vice President Dick Cheney is, and his administration is swarming with CFR members. The incoming Obama administration’s transition team is packed with CFR members and he is already looking to staff many of its administration’s key executive branch positions with CFR members.
 
Did you vote for change in the 2008 Election? If you did, here’s a partial list of Mr. Obama’s transition team:
 
Susan E. Rice – (CFR) former State Department Asst Secretary for African Affairs; Anthony Lake (CFR) – Bill Clinton’s first national Security advisor; Zbigniew Brzezinski – (CFR) and Trilateral Commission - Brzezinski is widely seen as the man who created Al Qaeda, and was involved in the Carter Administration plan to give arms, funding and training to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan; Richard Clarke (CFR) - Former chief counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council under Bush; Robert W. Kagan (CFR) argues that interventionism is a bipartisan affair that should be undertaken with the approval of our democratic allies; Dennis B. Ross (CFR) and Trilateral Commission - Served as the director for policy planning in the State Department under President George H. W. Bush and special Middle East coordinator under President Bill Clinton; Lawrence J. Korb (CFR) - Director of National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. Has criticized manor of the invasion of Iraq but has detailed plans to increase the manpower of the United States Army to fight the war on terror and to "spread liberal democratic values throughout the Middle East"; Bruce Reidel (CFR) - Former CIA analyst who wishes to expand the war on terror to fight Al Qaeda across the globe. Considered to be the reason behind Barack Obama’s Hawkish views on Pakistan and his Pro India leanings on Kashmir; Stephen E. Flynn (CFR) - Has been attributed with the idea for Obama’s much vaunted "Civilian Security Force". Flynn has written: "The United States should roughly replicate the Federal Reserve model by creating a Federal Security Reserve System (FSRS) with a national board of governors, 10 regional Homeland Security Districts, and 92 local branches called Metropolitan Anti-Terrorism Committees”; and Madeline Albright (CFR) and Brookings - Currently serves on the Council on Foreign Relations Board of directors and was Former Secretary of State and US Ambassador to the United Nations under Clinton.
 
Here’s the list of possible cabinet positions in the new administration: James B. Steinberg – CFR and the Trilateral Commission; Chuck Hagel ® – (CFR); Robert M Gates – (CFR), Hillary Clinton – Husband Bill is a CFR member; Bill Richardson (CFR); Sen John Kerry (D) (CFR); Susan Rice (CFR); Robert Rubin (CFR); Lawrence Summers (CFR); Timothy Geithner (CFR); Paul A. Volcker (CFR); David L. Boren (CFR); Thomas H. Kean (CFR); Gary Hart (CFR), and Jane Harman (CFR) – Defense Department Special Counsel (1979).
 
 
At time of writing of this article, President-elect Barack Obama's has apparently selected Arizona Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano as secretary of Homeland Security; Timothy Geithner, the current New York Federal Reserve head, as the Secretary of the Treasury; and Texas Democratic Gov. William Richardson as the Secretary of Commerce. Guess what? They are all members of the Council on Foreign Relations. So much for change!
 
What do Dan Rather, Barbara Walters, Jim Lehrer, Marvin Kalb, Diane Sawyer, Andrea Mitchell and Tom Brokaw have in common? Answer: They are all members of the CFR.
 
What does the NY Times, Washington Post, Wall Street journal, LA Times, Boston Globe, Baltomor Sun, Chicage Sun-Times, Houston Post, Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Arkansas Gazette, DesMoine Register and Tribune, Louisville Courier, the AP, UPI, Reuters, the Gannett Co, Walt Disney, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox Networks, Clear Channel have in common: Answer: They are all members of the CFR.
 
Freedom of the press has always been vital to the preservation of our American Republic. Ever since the early years of our country, it was the American “free press” that stood tall between us and the crooked international bankers, industrialists and corrupt government officials. While some of the major newspapers in the big cities were controlled by establishment types like William Randolph Hearst, who definitely influenced the content, most of the newspaper owners and reporters were independent and honorable people who chose to keep their integrity by pursuing the truth. Most local newspapers, radio stations, and later on TV stations, were owned locally.
 
As they grow larger and eliminate their competition, major media corporations and international bankers are choosing what you will see on the nightly news while trying to trick you into believing it is unbiased reporting. The very news stories that you are fed by the mainstream media are manipulated to mirror the public relations campaigns of corporations, international bankers and even their favorite presidential candidates. If this is not the case then why, during the course of the 2008 election, was there no mention of the issues that were important to Americans: the threat by big government to our freedoms, liberties and sovereignty; the actions of the Federal Reserve and the issuance fiat money; the drugging of 6 million of our nation’s youth; or amnesty for illegal aliens. Popular candidates like Ron Paul were either ignored by the media, excluded from most of the TV debates, or asked fewer questions than their CFR candidate counterparts. Of the top twenty media corporations in the U.S, 18 are members of the CFR.
 
The CFR's strategy is to use their members in the media to promote the need for world government in order to fight international threats like global warming. Both Obama and McCain made the environment a major issue in the campaign, but avoided mentioning the immigration issue. The CFR has long identified the worldwide environmental movement as a means to advance its agenda and has even suggested a global tax on all developed nations, payable to the United Nations of course. Most of the major media companies are now controlled by individuals or organizations that are members of the CFR, including the international bankers. One of the techniques used by the CFR and its membership has been to manipulate the news in such as way as to push their internationalist views on the rest of us.
 
As the big media corporations keep merging into larger and more powerful companies, they will be able to control public opinion as never before. With their friends in congress and in key government agencies, all the international bankers and their CFR members need to do is advocate bringing back the “Fairness Doctrine” and regulating the internet and their control of the media will be complete.
 
The average American might find the CFR’s powerful influence over America's government very difficult to understand or believe, but never forget that the CFR was founded by international bankers for the express purpose of bringing about socialism and world government. It is the deliberate plan of these international bankers, who hide in the shadows and pull the strings of their marionettes, to gradually increase their influence and domination over America’s domestic and foreign affairs. CFR members have been in control of our government since the 1940’s. If CFR members are supposedly to be the nation’s best and brightest in running the federal government and overseeing foreign affairs, why is the country in such a mess under their eighty year watch? The answer is: That’s the plan.
 
The international bankers behind the Federal Reserve and the CFR are deliberately trying to usurp the US Constitution and gradually destroy our freedoms, liberties and sovereignty in the process. They are using the Federal Reserve System to bankrupt the country so we will be at their mercy. The deeper in debt our country goes, the richer and more powerful these international bankers become. If action is not taken to take back control of our nation’s currency from the criminals in the private international banking cartel and if the CFR’s influence over the highest levels of our federal government isn't soon broken, America will be reduced to a third world nation controlled by a socialistic world government where our freedoms and liberties would have disappeared and our national sovereignty is but a fond memory.
 
Many Americans believe that we may have reached a point where it no longer matters which party or candidate wins the election, because both candidates are already beholden to special interest groups and the winner will most like staff the high level executive positions with CFR members.
 
The activities of the international bankers behind the Council on Foreign Relations and the Federal Reserve should be thoroughly investigated by an independent prosecutor. If criminal activities are uncovered, then those involved should be prosecuted under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) as an ongoing criminal conspiracy. The American people must not give up their liberties for the false sense of security offered by the international bankers and their CFR puppets. The grip of these international criminals must be broken and the threats against our liberties, freedoms and our nation’s sovereignty must be eliminated. It can only be accomplished by a demand for action by a determined and educated American citizenry, as well as by an honest and thorough federal criminal investigation.
 
I close this article with a quote from David Rockefeller, the former Chairman and the current Honorary Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relation and ask you to consider the implications of what he has said:
 
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
 
 
- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany 
 

[OhioFisherman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations

 

No Clue John but Bush was or is also member?

[jonnybass]

Cheney is a member and so is Bush Senior. So is John McCain BTW.

[Guest lundboy]

So is Michelle Obama...

 

http://www.ccfr.org/chicago_council_board_directors.php

 

I'm glad to see people are starting to get the picture.

 

If one goes back further, they can find that the CFR is a branch of the RIIA-Royal Institute of International Affairs (Yes run by the Queen).

 

Ignatieff is a member and so is Michelle Jean

 

Guess who else panders to the CFR:

 

http://www.cfr.org/publication/14255/conve...rper_video.html

Edited January 23, 2009 by lundboy

[jonnybass]

I think people here will ignore this. It's much easier to dismiss you as a nut and continue life in a state of blissful ignorance.

[Roy]

I don't think you should be dismissing the members of our FISHING COMMUNITY as being ignorant because they have chosen not to answer your post. This thread was started to mark a great event that happened for our neighbours to the south. There are lots of boards where you can go to discuss this stuff with people who won't ignore you anyhow.

To the people who were genuinely interested in discussing the inauguration, I apologize for locking this thread.