MCTFisher9120 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 does Rapala make their own hooks or do they get their hooks from another company? If another company witch brand, they seem to be very good hooks but i need to replace 2 from a older lure.
steverowbotham Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 what is your fascination with Rapala lures!? LOL I believe they use VMC hooks, but I'm not 100% sure, it doesnt really matter what hooks you put on, I change most of my hooks to owners or Triple Grip hooks
farsider Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 They use VMC hooks. Yes it is a company they own.
MCTFisher9120 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) what is your fascination with Rapala lures!? LOL I believe they use VMC hooks, but I'm not 100% sure, it doesnt really matter what hooks you put on, I change most of my hooks to owners or Triple Grip hooks lol, not really a fascination i just like their products. I asked this question because the hooks their lures come with seem to be very good hooks. I need to replace hooks on a few lures and i wanted to know of the brand rapala uses. Hopefully i can find these VMC hooks at BPS. Edited January 6, 2009 by Mike The Bass Fisher
rbaquial Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 lol, not really a fascination i just like their products. I asked this question because the hooks their lures come with seem to be very good hooks. I need to replace hooks on a few lures and i wanted to know of the brand rapala uses. Hopefully i can find these VMC hooks at BPS. I know VMC is definitely sold at LeBaron.
kemper Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 Theyre hooks, theyre sharp thats all you need to know.
Slayingm Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 Steve and Farsider are correct....the majority of the Rapala and Storm lure line uses VMC. They also own Gamakatsu hooks which are superior (and more expensive).... I usually change all spoon and hardbody bait hooks to these as they are even sharper and stick more fish. Both are chemically sharpened.... the main difference is that the VMC's are dipped in the acid approx. 4/5 times comparied to 8/9 for the Gami's. One point (no pun intented) to consider is although the Gami's are sharper because of the super fine point they do tend to burr easier on rocks etc..... Greg.
pike slayer Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 i find the vmc hooks are alrite but the new sureset hooks on the new xraps are crap. the larger hook bends when you catch a fish and if you try to bend it back it just snaps off. i would like to find a place were i can buy the same feathered hooks on the xraps, the ones i found at canadian tire just arent the same.
holdfast Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 Just a point for the young fella. LOL. Check in your Tackle Box and your new lures and see if they stick to your finger nail ( The point of the Hook) if not, they need sharpening. Yup, I even bought new Rapalas and had to sharpen them. I wont say how to sharpen, just google as what works, for me a Gazillion Pros will say I'm wrong and they're right. Whatever works for you. Just like a batting stance.
kemper Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 I have to say that this whole super sticky sharp hook thing that goes on really has me baffled... I have NEVER sharpened a hook out of the package, and only when I yank a bait out of the rocks do I fix the points on it and I can't remember the last time I lost a good fish that just shook the hook. If I stick the fish, it usually ends up in the boat. I lose my fish on cheap knots and bad hooksets, not usually on bad hooks though. just my 2 cents
steverowbotham Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 I have to say that this whole super sticky sharp hook thing that goes on really has me baffled... I have NEVER sharpened a hook out of the package, and only when I yank a bait out of the rocks do I fix the points on it and I can't remember the last time I lost a good fish that just shook the hook. If I stick the fish, it usually ends up in the boat. I lose my fish on cheap knots and bad hooksets, not usually on bad hooks though. just my 2 cents With a sharp hook, a bad hookset wont cost you nearly as often. My 2 cents
MCTFisher9120 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) I need to get another hook sharpener, it deffinately makes a difference. Edited January 6, 2009 by Mike The Bass Fisher
solopaddler Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 I have to say that this whole super sticky sharp hook thing that goes on really has me baffled... I have NEVER sharpened a hook out of the package, and only when I yank a bait out of the rocks do I fix the points on it and I can't remember the last time I lost a good fish that just shook the hook. If I stick the fish, it usually ends up in the boat. I lose my fish on cheap knots and bad hooksets, not usually on bad hooks though. just my 2 cents With rare exceptions I sharpen every single hook out of the package LOL! Makes all the difference in the world lad.
solopaddler Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 I need to get another hook sharpener, it deffinately makes a difference. A simple hook file is all I've ever used. Both sides and the front of the hook point are sharpened to a kind of triangular shape.
Rich Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Can't say I've sharpened hooks out of the package, but I definitely sharpen them regularly. Very important IMO. As for the Rap hooks, never had bad experiences with them personally. I am a bigger fan of Excalibur hooks though.
bassjnkie Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 i find the vmc hooks are alrite but the new sureset hooks on the new xraps are crap. the larger hook bends when you catch a fish and if you try to bend it back it just snaps off. i would like to find a place were i can buy the same feathered hooks on the xraps, the ones i found at canadian tire just arent the same. Bass Pro have a few different feathered hooks. I don't know if they are the exact same as the rapalas.
trapshooter Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 The hooks on X-raps and definitely crap, bend and break. Actually, x-raps in general don't take a lot of abuse. I've got a collection of them with no lips. On the up side, I do catch a lot of spring walleye, pike and bass on them. If a hook isn't sticky sharp, touch it up. I use the same tool and method as solo described.
profisher25 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer red Lazer Sharp hooks for some of my lures!
Dnthmn Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer red Lazer Sharp hooks for some of my lures! Alright, I gotta ask. Does the red colour actually make a difference in your opinion? I just find it kinda amusing that red hook manufacturers and makers of live bait harnesses with red hooks market them stating that the colour imitates blood from a wound helping to trigger a strike. Then line manufacturers market the colour stating that it is filtered out and rendered invisible in as little as 3 feet of water. The marketing tactics contradict each other and the really funny thing is that the colour red is probably the biggest thing in terms of all the manufacturers hopping on board in their product offering!!
MCTFisher9120 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) Alright, I gotta ask. Does the red colour actually make a difference in your opinion? I just find it kinda amusing that red hook manufacturers and makers of live bait harnesses with red hooks market them stating that the colour imitates blood from a wound helping to trigger a strike. Then line manufacturers market the colour stating that it is filtered out and rendered invisible in as little as 3 feet of water. The marketing tactics contradict each other and the really funny thing is that the colour red is probably the biggest thing in terms of all the manufacturers hopping on board in their product offering!! You are right about the color red being filtered out quickly in the water, that is why red hooks are good to use only in shallow waters. If you are going 4ft or deeper the hooks may "dissapear" and that might not be a bad thing... Edited January 7, 2009 by Mike The Bass Fisher
Raf Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 red does not 'dissapear', it turns monochrome (b&w) red anything, be it hooks, line is meant to separate you from the money in your wallet.
Spiel Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 red anything, be it hooks, line is meant to separate you from the money in your wallet.
forrest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 red does not 'dissapear', it turns monochrome (b&w) red anything, be it hooks, line is meant to separate you from the money in your wallet. "bleeding" baits are a scam?
Raf Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 yup just like the waterfront property in the sahara i have for sale
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