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Annoying is being really mild to say the least.

Don't hold back tell us how you really feel lol. Damn Chris I don't ever recall you trashing anyone, he must be bad🙂

I already get a rebate from the insurance company for using winter tires, have been for quite a number of years. And yes, winter tires should be mandatory, save on accidents, injuries and the cost of insurance going up.

Five decades later and I'm still learning about the brilliance of "Pink Floyd!"

Years ago they used to clean the roads better. Now they have downloaded the cost to you in winter tires. for people that don’t drive much all weather tires are good. some of the lighter vehicles should have winter tires on for sure. it’s the cost of tires and rims that’s ridiculous.

Worth noting there’s a ton of used winter tires out there too, on rims and with plenty of life left in them. Picked up a set for my truck last year for 200 bucks and a set for the wife’s for 300. If they save you from even the most insignificant of fender benders they’ve paid for themselves 10 times over.

I'd run rubber studs if I could. And I really think it depends on where you live if they should be mandatory or not. The entire province doesn't get the same weather.

100% believer in good winter tires not only on my vehicle but also on my my daughter's vehicles as well and I believe in them enough that I pay to ensure that my daughter's have them on every winter. It's just common sense imo. PS....my insurer does rebate for having them on.

I always switch over to winter tires on all my vehicles, and I do agree they should be mandatory in Ontario. When it comes to driving safety, it's often not you, but the other guy. Actually the added cost really isn't that significant. If you keep your vehicles for a while, to the point that you have to buy new tires regardless once or twice during its lifetime...winter tires will double the life of your all-season tires. Typically in 200k of driving you will go through 2 sets of tires. If one set is all-seasons and one set is winters from the start, the only real added cost is a set of cheap steel rims and the cost of putting them on and off. The reduced premium from my insurance helps with that...so really doesn't cost me anything at all.

I believe I started using winter tires after reading a thread on this board about them. Ten plus years ago for sure. I will never drive in the winter without them, they are a game changer. However I think making them mandatory is a little too much and not because of the cost. Debbe drove to work everyday at the bank and never had snow tires on her car. City streets all the way and the roads are always plowed. Her cars where used to get around in town only. My car with winter tires was used for the other driving tasks.

I get a rebate for having winter tires, I think it's something like 10%

https://thetireman.ca/antares-grip-60-ice-studded-205-55r16-94t/ I don't think they deliver to Ontario but I'm sure the same vein is there cheap I usually get 3 seasons out of summers and 4 for the winters good insurance

It’s hard to argue with that but if it’s for safety studs should be allowed again And as you say there are many people who can not afford a second pair of tires ahhhh I don’t know. I can’t vote either way i I have use winter tires for the wife and me for about 18 years

I'm with you on the tires In my opinion, they should be mandatory I run studded tires in the winter on the coast and saved my backside a few times.

They definitely make a difference but tire prices are insane! But the thought of losing a loved one is also unthinkable. Maybe some kind of government rebate and reduced insurance premium would help, whether or not it is made mandatory.

I've been driving for longer that pretty well everyone on this board and have always used winter tires and in my opinion they make a huge difference in both moving and stopping. We've all been stuck behind someone who is trying to get thru a snowstorm with summer tires and it's really maddening. You can also lose control of a vehicle on snow covered roads when using summer tires and slam into some other car. Quebec has a rule that all cars must have winter tires but I don't know the dates. Winter tires are very expensive and many folks can't afford them and personally I don't know if they should be mandatory or not. My neighbors were both in their 90's and money was short and they couldn't afford winter tires but 1/2 the time he had trouble getting out of his snow covered driveway. I'm just curious what others think, should they be mandatory or not and if you think yes, what about the folks that need their car but don't have an extra bag of $$ laying around to buy them.

Zaldain has the same deal going on his boat too, hds 12, apex 12 and a GPS map. I do have to say, wheeler's set up is horrific and giving me an aneurism. He clearly should have called up the guys at Geigertech but I have to assume he has some deal with Boat logix. Here's probably the wildest electronic's set up on the planet, although he swapped one of the garmins on the bow for an NBT during the season. Here you can see his bow set up at the final st lawrence event. https://www.bassmaster.com/takumi-ito/video/taku-ito-moving-into-the-top-10-at-st-lawrence/ New bassmaster rules now make Taku's set up illegal. Perhaps the biggest impact it will have is that "crappie brakes" are now illegal and no one is allowed to run livescope deucers off of their jackplate anymore. I could see this quickly changing though, someone is going to release an all in one deucer for sure in the near future. The idea of side scanning in live time makes complete sense. I also think that this LVS XR and LVS 34 will just be combined into one deucer with multiple frequency selections. I think thats basically where this stuff is headed in the near term. Especially because they are only allowing one FFS deucer on Bassmaster now. Dont even get me started on MLF..their zany weird rules are ridiculous.

I was only a child of 10, but I can dig it, really dig it .......

I guess Wheeler wants to cover all the bases..or just can't decide

Looks like Youtube is the place. I kind of liked just setting the pvr and watching whenever - skip commercials, boring places. Been doing it for years, VCR before that. Thanks for the suggestions, will check them out.

It’s very sad. On the other extreme I remember spear fishing off the beaches in the Caribbean as a kid, literally wade 10’ into the water and there were red and black coral ferns the size of an ice shack, every colour living corals everywhere, sea grass fields and every species of fish to make the mind boggle and senses overload, have been back to those same shores 40 years later and it’s all gone, nothing but dead , bleached coral and a few hardy species of reef fish sparsely distributed. In behind what mangroves have been spared by developement is plastic piled 3’ high, it is literally disgusting. Many factors at play, all contributed to by us, sad my son will never experience what I was privileged to see.

I've already got two Helix 12s, the sickness started years ago!!! lol!

Don't get started. Its all down hill from there Bill. But if your looking for a new unit and has the capability for the best FFS, The Garmin Ultra 106sv right now is $1400 at Cabelas right now... which is a screaming deal.

There is the top-of-line Apex from Humminbird. It looks like the Xplore will be the new mid-range unit...the specs look like a definite improvement over the Helix. Like all tech, it's a moving target and sometimes difficult to know when to pull the trigger.

a green christmas in dryden makes me want to cry.