AKRISONER Posted August 21, 2017 Report Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) we are in need of a bank charger for the alumacraft. So...as such what do you guys have in the boat? What are you experiences with them? Edited August 21, 2017 by AKRISONER
G.mech Posted August 21, 2017 Report Posted August 21, 2017 Link to an old thread that had some discussions and links: http://ontariofishingcommunity.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=84585&hl=bank
AKRISONER Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Posted August 22, 2017 no one has any further insight?
BassMan11 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 I have a NOCO Mini Gen2 and I am pretty happy with it. Yes it only charges at 4 amp per Bank but I don't run my trolling motor batteries down under 60-70%% very often. One of the bonuses of having a 80lb thrust motor on a 16.5' aluminum boat. So if you are draining your batteries every time you go out you might want to look at the higher amperage charger vs a lower one.
Lape0019 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) I've got a MK330 that has to be close to ten years old. I bought it used 5 years ago and it is still going strong. Its 10 amps per bank and will charge my batteries overnight. I think the longest it has ever taken was 5 hours. I originally has a 4 amp per bank charger and it would take a full day to charge the batteries. So my recommendation is to buy one that is at least 10 amps per bank but I will also say I will be sticking with Minn kota if it every craps out. Edited August 22, 2017 by Lape0019
Andy Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 I have a two bank Minn Kota that I have mounted in a front compartment for my two Interstate trolling batteries.The batteries, boat and charger were bought new by the first owner in 2006 and I bought it second hand with the original batteries in it about 6 or 7 years ago. The batteries are still going strong, although one of the banks doesn't always switch to a charged state unless I unplug it and plug it in again. I'm not sure if it's the battery or the charger, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Minn Kota. I can run my trolling motor pretty good over a weekend and I think that I'm doing pretty good to get 10 yrs plus out of a set of trolling batteries. Andy
Fishwilly Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 Minn Kota 2 bank 10 amp charger (5 amps per bank) works mint. You can tell when you install these things they are quality. solid hefty unit.
AKRISONER Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) im trying to confirm my understanding, but if you are running a 24v trolling motor set up you would require a 3 bank minimum because the two trolling motor batteries wont charge in sequence. Then your third bank is for your starting motor correct? Edited August 23, 2017 by AKRISONER
Garnet Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 3 bank charger will have 3 sets of leads 1 to each battery. I don't understand sequence?
BillM Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) im trying to confirm my understanding, but if you are running a 24v trolling motor set up you would require a 3 bank minimum because the two trolling motor batteries wont charge in sequence. Then your third bank is for your starting motor correct? Depending on the charger you can charge them as a 24V system (In series, one lead per battery single bank), or on a per battery basis(parallel, two leads per battery, using 2 banks of the charger) all depends on how you have the charger hooked up. I don't charge my starting battery, big motor (Or kicker) takes care of that when we are running. I do have another battery installed in parallel with the starter which I use for my electronics (So I'm not draining the starter batteries running the graphs) Edited August 23, 2017 by BillM
AKRISONER Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 Depending on the charger you can charge them as a 24V system (In series, one lead per battery single bank), or on a per battery basis(parallel, two leads per battery, using 2 banks of the charger) all depends on how you have the charger hooked up. I don't charge my starting battery, big motor (Or kicker) takes care of that when we are running. I do have another battery installed in parallel with the starter which I use for my electronics (So I'm not draining the starter batteries running the graphs) this is exactly what I was trying to get at...my lingo may be a bit wrong im not a battery/wiring expert. I wasnt sure if you could charge your two 12v batteries for the trolling motor as a 24v system by placing them in series. I have my answer, you can indeed do this....i guess the downfall is that the charging time would literally be doubled compared to running them parallel. Bill do you connect a bank to your starting motor at all or simply one to the troller batteries and one to the electronics exclusive battery?
grimsbylander Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 Get a charger that 1) has the same number of banks as you have 12V batteries and, 2) has at least 10 amps PER bank. The most common battery arrangement is to have your electronics, livewell pumps, etc. running off your starter battery. If you want a separate battery and have the room, no problem. But how you fish has a lot to do with how you charge your starter battery. If you troll a lot, your outboard may do a good enough job. I don't, so running 6 minutes down the lake and fishing for 4 hours won't work. I have 3 batteries for the 36V troller and one for everything else...I use the NOCO Genius 4 - four bank, 40 amp charger and all my batteries get refreshed after every outing.
Lape0019 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 I have a 3 bank with one bank going to each battery in my boat. Unlike many, I charge the cranking battery as well as the two deep cycles I have hooked in series for the 24volt system. I cannot rely on my big motor to fully charge my cranking battery because I do not run it for long distances very often. When you have electronics on all day and the pumps to keep fish alive going, you are going to draw more power than an outboard can replenish in a 5 minute trip down the lake. The cranking battery always charges the quickest but it's always good to have them topped all of the way up. Especially if you want to keep the batteries for any length of time. I do not think these charger are really setup to charge dual batteries off of one lead.
AKRISONER Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 the insight provided here is awesome...now i just need to decide on a brand. They all seem to have good reviews...anyone with anything bad to say?
Lape0019 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) From what I've read, Noco seems to be hit and miss. BPS branded charges seem to be even worse but Guest, Dual Pro and MK all seem to have cult like following. Adam Edited August 23, 2017 by Lape0019
Garnet Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 The only real plus with BPS is they hand you a new one if it screws up. Handy if you are close.
Garnet Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 PM me your phone number. I will text a MK 330 from FLW club website.
grimsbylander Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 I'm on my 4th year with NOCO, flawless so far.
BillM Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 this is exactly what I was trying to get at...my lingo may be a bit wrong im not a battery/wiring expert. I wasnt sure if you could charge your two 12v batteries for the trolling motor as a 24v system by placing them in series. I have my answer, you can indeed do this....i guess the downfall is that the charging time would literally be doubled compared to running them parallel. Bill do you connect a bank to your starting motor at all or simply one to the troller batteries and one to the electronics exclusive battery? I just hook my charger to the trolling motor batteries. We're in the boat at least once a week, so the big motor charges the starter + other battery just fine. No need to hook that up (for us anyhow)
Sinker Posted August 24, 2017 Report Posted August 24, 2017 Get a charger that 1) has the same number of banks as you have 12V batteries and, 2) has at least 10 amps PER bank. The most common battery arrangement is to have your electronics, livewell pumps, etc. running off your starter battery. If you want a separate battery and have the room, no problem. But how you fish has a lot to do with how you charge your starter battery. If you troll a lot, your outboard may do a good enough job. I don't, so running 6 minutes down the lake and fishing for 4 hours won't work. I have 3 batteries for the 36V troller and one for everything else...I use the NOCO Genius 4 - four bank, 40 amp charger and all my batteries get refreshed after every outing. This ^ At least 10A per battery. Anything less takes forever, and I honestly find its not good for the batteries, especially if they are run down a lot. S.
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