Rodbender Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 After reading the 2 above posts I am dumbfounded and speechless.........what the hell ! ! ! Kinda contradicting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Kinda contradicting Yep, to say the least............me think someone is hitting the hard stuff early.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze190 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Yep, to say the least............me think someone is hitting the hard stuff early.... What is the issue with what I said? I'm saying the ice fishing outfitters shouldn't lose their businesses because of the walleye being more scarce when the reason they are scarce is because they get netted. What is the problem??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze190 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Do you think that I was referring to the company selling the fish at the market that shouldn't suffer? I was referring to the outfitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 What is the issue with what I said? I'm saying the ice fishing outfitters shouldn't lose their businesses because of the walleye being more scarce when the reason they are scarce is because they get netted. What is the problem??? You sounded a little contradictory and we are just having a little fun at your expense........ You're good to go........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickeral eater Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Well haze nothing's ever a guarantee. Let's not complain about the nfn netting or fish stocks if we're going to continue to support them by buying the netted fish. AND it's medicinal!!! Without it I could get even sicker! Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds63 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Maybe it's time the NFN to consider not netting the lake and taking advantage of their location and resources to open a resort/casino on Nip. To my mind, everyone wins, except those addicted to gambling! Shortsightedness has left the pickereye population devastated, which will trickle down to the wallets of everyone in the area. Resorts/casino's seem to be thriving elsewhere in the province, so why not the Nip region. HH PS - here we go again! I've got the popcorn maker out and await the usual results of threads like this! Great suggestion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) This is absolutely ridiculous. I buy pickerel at the farmer's market which I know for a fact is caught in nets. They sell 50 pounds of it every Saturday. Why should these businesses suffer because certain individuals are abusing our lakes? !!! Very disappointing. to me it sounds like you are supporting the netting of fish because you are too lazy to go catch one yourself. You sir are part of the problem, the white man has an obligation to be responsible for our resources as well. This isnt a native exclusive problem. Edited September 30, 2016 by AKRISONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just a note about buying walleye; even if all local residents stopped buying, the demand would still exist. I've seen Nipissing walleye on menus in Hamilton. And people down there haven't a clue what's going on in our lake, nor is it possible to educate them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Just a note about buying walleye; even if all local residents stopped buying, the demand would still exist. I've seen Nipissing walleye on menus in Hamilton. And people down there haven't a clue what's going on in our lake, nor is it possible to educate them all. The mentality that "i dont need to make a change because others are ignorant to the problem" IMO is downright a joke I should pollute because others do it, so why should i give a turd? This guy is on the ontario fishing forum posting in a thread about a decimated fishery, but then posts about buying fish from guys with no shame...brutal Edited September 30, 2016 by AKRISONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze190 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 to me it sounds like you are supporting the netting of fish because you are too lazy to go catch one yourself. You sir are part of the problem, the white man has an obligation to be responsible for our resources as well. This isnt a native exclusive problem. This doesnt need to become a race discussion. I catch several pickerel myself every year so catching is not the problem. I am certainly supporting it by buying it- I didnt know before this thread there was a problem with the volume in Nippissing. I watched certain people (who are permitted) stand at a fish sanctuary in Algonquin park (east side whitney) and pound the pickerel one after another when it was so easy my 7 year would have had his limit. I will never support this kind of activity because it simply isn't right. For the record I agree that we all have an obligation which is why I follow the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 This doesnt need to become a race discussion. I catch several pickerel myself every year so catching is not the problem. I am certainly supporting it by buying it- I didnt know before this thread there was a problem with the volume in Nippissing. I watched certain people (who are permitted) stand at a fish sanctuary in Algonquin park (east side whitney) and pound the pickerel one after another when it was so easy my 7 year would have had his limit. I will never support this kind of activity because it simply isn't right. For the record I agree that we all have an obligation which is why I follow the rules. so does this mean that you are going to discontinue purchasing commercially caught pickerel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze190 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 The mentality that "i dont need to make a change because others are ignorant to the problem" IMO is downright a joke I should pollute because others do it, so why should i give a turd? This guy is on the ontario fishing forum posting in a thread about a decimated fishery, but then posts about buying fish from guys with no shame...brutal You are not cool. It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze190 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 so does this mean that you are going to discontinue purchasing commercially caught pickerel? Now that I know there is a problem I will have to resort back to Lake Erie pickerel during the times I'm not fishing for them. Both my sons fish and they are 7 and 9 and I would like to see healthy lakes for them and their children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 The mentality that "i dont need to make a change because others are ignorant to the problem" IMO is downright a joke I should pollute because others do it, so why should i give a turd? That's a bit parabolic. What I'm saying is that - although it will help - discouraging the local purchase of walleye won't solve our problem. The entirety of Nipissing's walleye supply could be met by southern demand, no problem. Sad but true. Meanwhile I'm going into my 200th walleye on Nipissing without keeping a single one. I never buy walleye, Nipissing, Erie or anywhere. I now fish barbless. I don't fish deep in the winter in order to avoid barotrauma. Believe me my friend, I'm not careless about the issue, in fact I'm borderline obsessed with restoring the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 That's a bit parabolic. What I'm saying is that - although it will help - discouraging the local purchase of walleye won't solve our problem. The entirety of Nipissing's walleye supply could be met by southern demand, no problem. Sad but true. Meanwhile I'm going into my 200th walleye on Nipissing without keeping a single one. I never buy walleye, Nipissing, Erie or anywhere. I now fish barbless. I don't fish deep in the winter in order to avoid barotrauma. Believe me my friend, I'm not careless about the issue, in fact I'm borderline obsessed with restoring the lake. and as such, i believe you and I see eye to eye on the issues at hand. I am of the same mentality in regions that do not have the same issues as Nip Ive boated well over a couple hundred fish this past year and have only kept 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePa Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Well all I know is that I use to go to Nip a couple times a year - stay at a campground and spend money in that area - now I don't go there anymore - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Love my annual trip to nip, been going for the last 10 yrs for a week with an outfitter. Yes the fishing has declined over the last 5 yrs that I have noticed. Many of you probably can say been longer than that, BUT last years walleye fishing was much better imo, no doubt due to stricter regulations. Not a lot of keepers but good sized fish that will be even better this year. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't closing walleye on rice lake for a few yrs work for the fishery? Seems like rice is doing a lot better these days. Is this an issue because nfn is requesting this? I love nip and am looking forward to my January trip and I do feel for those who make a living from the industry, but I won't be totally upset if I have to head some place else this winter. I don't ever remember them closing walleye on Rice Lake. They initiated slots and reduced the limit. They shut the walleye fishery down on Lake Scugog last winter. The continued ice fishing on Nipissing is a problem because of the size restriction and the number of walleye caught from water over 30' deep that have to be released. They probably die. Our group had gone there for many many years, but no longer go. We haven't seen the operators adjust by moving their huts to better pike and perch grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) The continued ice fishing on Nipissing is a problem because of the size restriction and the number of walleye caught from water over 30' deep that have to be released. They probably die. Our group had gone there for many many years, but no longer go. We haven't seen the operators adjust by moving their huts to better pike and perch grounds. Correct. The MNR and NFN claim 20% mortality via ice fishing - that means I've killed 40 walleye with catch and release? Totally defeats the purpose. Some innovative regulations are needed, but the public doesn't seem willing to budge. Personally I'd go for something wild like 1 fish limit, no releasing except for spawners. Barbless only and no fishing deeper than 25ft through ice. The aurora trout population is protected in a similar way - you catch a fish, release or not, you're done. Who here is willing to go this far? The lake has cancer, it needs major surgery, not aspirin. Edit: I'm actually curious as to what other innovative regulations we could utilize. Anyone else have ideas? Edited September 30, 2016 by Sterling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 If the close walleye on Nip for winter fishing but promote catching perch and Pike there will be less anglers but still many walleye caught (and released). Its not like the soft-water where you can target pike. Drill a hole and drop your line. Good chance you can locate schools of perch but walleye and pike will be there too. 1 fish limit would kill the tourist industry. Keep it 2 fish of any size and no releasing. Catch 2 walleye and you are done for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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