landry Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 I am getting water through one of my lower motor bolts on my transom (75hp merc optimax and Crestliner combo). I am pretty sure I caught it early. When I got home I checked and it was loose and so were the other three!!! I mistakenly turned the others thinking I was tightening them and the bolts spun. Now I am concerned I have broken the seals on those too. Was thinking I could take out the bolts one at a time and reseal them with 3M 5200 after letting any wet wood dry. Or should the motor be taken off and resealed all over again by a professional???? any advice/tips?????? Thanks so much Landry
Fisherman Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 Make some rubber washers from an old tire tube, tight on the bolt and put them between the motor mount and transom. I have never had a leak in 20+ years.
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Just get some 3M 5200 or Sikaflex Marine Sealant and seal em up. No biggy. Make sure to seal outer and inner. Loosen bolt, pull it out and put some 5200 on the shank and slide it back in. put a bead around the bolt on the inside, reinstall the washer and nut and torque to about 50 FT LBs. Done!! Edited July 5, 2016 by DRIFTER_016
supercharged115 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 the rubber washer idea is good but the 3M 5200 is excellent as well...I used it to seal some broken welds in the bottom of my boat 7 years ago and never had a leak since!
NANUK Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 Remove one bolt at a time, fill the hole with 3M 5200 from inside and outside, coat the bolt with the same sealant, insert and tighten the nut, use lock nuts if you can, when tightening, only turn the nut, make sure the bolt does not turn. let the access sealant ooze out. leave to cure.
landry Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Posted July 5, 2016 Thanks guys. I will use 5200 and your tips. Glad I caught this early - I think I did anyways - although I thought I noticed the wood a little darker on that bolt last fall.
landry Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Posted July 5, 2016 Do u think I should soak in some sort of thinned epoxy or sealant in the wet hole once it is dried as an extra measure???
Freshtrax Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 No need to let wood dry with 5200 it actually will cure faster with moisture present.
NANUK Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 I wouldn't use any epoxy or sealer, it will interfere with 5200 bonding to wood.
landry Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Posted July 5, 2016 Ok. Thanks again. I'm gonna try to dry it out first for a few days with some heat cause I will worry otherwise. The bolt is exposed and not sandwiched by aluminum which will likely help. There is no flex in my transom. Hopefully all is good.
landry Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Posted July 5, 2016 There was very little 5200 in the hole and none on the bolt or inside washer. Seems like Crestliner just put 5200 on outside edge of transom. Typical shortcut I am guessing.
Headhunter Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 FishnSled just had his transom replaced on his Crestliner. The wood was soaked and the transom spongy. if your is the same design, it will rot as well. Crestliner puts a metal cap across the top of the transom, but does not seal the cap. After years of use, water splashing up would make it's way into the top of the transom and get stuck there. It yours is the same design, I would highly recommend that you remove the cap, seal it with either a rubber gasket or calking. HH
grimsbylander Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 I use 3M 4200 as opposed to the 5200. The 5200 is extremely adhesive and has tremendous tensile strength. That is not required for this application and can lead to damage when trying to remove it. The 4200 series has the exact sealing properties with 1/3 the tensile strength. This makes motor removal easier and safer later on. It also means the sealant is easier t get off the transom. Numerous examples of V6 outboards holding in place after the bolts have been removed using 5200. I just added a jackplate and used the 4200 with a 200hp. Up to you, but I'd google it first.
landry Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Posted July 5, 2016 Thanks. There is no 5200 fast cure close by so I am at Cdn Tire now and thinking of using 4200 fast cure.
Fisherman Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 Like previously said, use of 3m5200 and you're going to need one mother of a nut buster to undo it, 3m4200 is a little less tensile.
mistaredone Posted July 5, 2016 Report Posted July 5, 2016 Just went through this myself. Used 5200 as advised by OFC and worked perfect. 5200 has a long cute time. I was down to the hour before my fishing trip
landry Posted July 10, 2016 Author Report Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) I resealed all the motor bolts today. Did one at a time and used 3M 4200. Put the lower bolts in from the outside as recommended by Mercury site. This way sealer is pushed inward into the hull. We generously slathered the bolts up and pushed them so that the excess would fill any voids on the motor mounting bracket. I didn't put sealant in the holes first and now am second guessing myself. Should I be? Edited July 10, 2016 by landry
NANUK Posted July 10, 2016 Report Posted July 10, 2016 You should be ok as long as holes are sealed from outside, I would have filled the hole from both sides first, Sealant is cheap. And it's no good for next time once you open the tube.
landry Posted July 10, 2016 Author Report Posted July 10, 2016 I have OCD so knowing me I will likely redo it tomorrow. I have another tube of sealant.
landry Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Posted July 11, 2016 Redid all 4 holes today with sealant in holes first. I am sure they are watertight now. Hopefully my transom is all good. Didn't see any rot in holes but there is about an 1/8"gap between wood and aluminum so I hope that is not due to delamination. Gonna have it inspected this summer. Fish sled told me that The Crestliner transom caps are apparently not sealed. Hopefully I don't have rot there. Thanks to Fishnsled and everyone else for their help.
NANUK Posted July 11, 2016 Report Posted July 11, 2016 If you didn't see any then there is no rot, At least the inside wood is exposed and you can air it out after each outing, just leave the back hatches open when not in use, I know what you mean by transome cap not being sealed, but my boat is 12 years old and no sign of leak anywhere around transom cap, Another spot to look is around the scuppers, there are 2 pieces on each scupper, just pushed in from either side, mine leaked when the boat was new, l pulled them out and reinstalled with 3M 5200, You might not have the same design.
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