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Rick -- were you wearing a tinfoil hat yesterday? Holy cow.

For those JT fans out there, this is a pretty good interview from CTV yesterday. Especially 7:20 and on....http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=708807

 

If that does not clue people into what the Liberals are all about then nothing will ....

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My favorite way to fish is trolling

 

Nah seriously man. I had a german teacher for history and he was a huge influence on me to read books outside the ciriculum.

 

I like to read, I suggest some try it lol.

 

You'de be shocked to find out whats documented throughout history

 

That and my great grandpa was a high ranking german during the war(he got asylum in the US) and he said they were indeed funded by zionists, the US, etc.

 

He was a war criminal. Yet the US army gave him the full ten yards at his funeral

 

Not sure if would be bragging about having a Nazi war criminal in the family tree....not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand but here you go...every drive a Ford...Henry Ford was a Nazi supporter....ever drive a V W Ferdinand Porsche had Nazi ties and used slave labor...ever wear Hugo Boss....again Nazi ties and used slave labor....and it goes on and on...I guess I am old stock and I will not apologize for it!!!

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If that does not clue people into what the Liberals are all about then nothing will ....

 

 

They all (meaning liberals, JT KW )keep saying its a good idea to borrow when interests rates are low but none of them say when it will be paid back....and thats never because all they ever do is cover interest, not principal.

 

Lets leave a whole bunch more debt for our kids

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Good one and not too far off....NDP slogan should be whats in it for me party.... :clapping:

HA! Good one! and Everyone who votes conservative and wants to reduce social services would be called the "I've got mine so too bad for you" party? Or should they just share "What's in it for me?"

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HA! Good one! and Everyone who votes conservative and wants to reduce social services would be called the "I've got mine so too bad for you" party? Or should they just share "What's in it for me?"

 

 

Thats why Canada has favoured Liberal govts, because they were an acceptable mix, but now they just want to spend way too much..And I just couldn't spend 4 years looking at that smug little smile on Justins face all the time

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HA! Good one! and Everyone who votes conservative and wants to reduce social services would be called the "I've got mine so too bad for you" party? Or should they just share "What's in it for me?"

 

or we could say if you want some go get some.....

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They all (meaning liberals, JT KW )keep saying its a good idea to borrow when interests rates are low but none of them say when it will be paid back....and thats never because all they ever do is cover interest, not principal.

 

Lets leave a whole bunch more debt for our kids

 

Mulcair also subscribes to the same theory of borrowing when low and not paying it off. I too bought my house in 83, little bit less but still have been mortgage free for a long time. I wouldn't let this guy manage a lottery pool let alone a nation's budget.

 

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/mulcair-has-remortgaged-his-quebec-home-11-times-since-early-1980s

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Mulcair also subscribes to the same theory of borrowing when low and not paying it off. I too bought my house in 83, little bit less but still have been mortgage free for a long time. I wouldn't let this guy manage a lottery pool let alone a nation's budget.

 

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/mulcair-has-remortgaged-his-quebec-home-11-times-since-early-1980s

 

 

I got mine about 1981 with a 13.5% interest rate...and we had a recession, now after battling through all that, Harper has decided we have to wait an extra 2 years to get a pension we have been paying into for 38 odd years...i'm not happry about that...But we have said since we were kids, NDP stands for No Down Payment...Really a tough call as to who to vote for.

 

PS, the Libs called tonight and asked for support, my wife said No and they asked why not...in her sweet little voice she said...Well dear He's just not ready :whistling:

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Mulcair also subscribes to the same theory of borrowing when low and not paying it off. I too bought my house in 83, little bit less but still have been mortgage free for a long time. I wouldn't let this guy manage a lottery pool let alone a nation's budget.

 

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/mulcair-has-remortgaged-his-quebec-home-11-times-since-early-1980s

No one knows what he does with the $. For all you know he's supporting a family member with medical costs or something.

 

(or he's blowing it at the local casino.......my point is without knowing, who are we to judge?)

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If you will remember Harper didn't want to run a deficet but it was a minority govt and the liberal and NDP said if he didn't try to spend his way out of the recession they would vote his budget down and trigger an election so he just reied to make them happy

 

Really, so you are admitting he sold out his principles just to hold onto power? LOL I agree he did and for that reason alone I couldn't vote for him !!!

 

In any event if the only thing making him run deficits was pressure from the other parties, threatening to end his reign. Then he should have stopped doing it when he got his majority. Yet he just kept on ringing up the debt....?

 

Got any other excuses that conservative command central puts out? Sorry I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not LOL?

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Really, so you are admitting he sold out his principles just to hold onto power? LOL I agree he did and for that reason alone I couldn't vote for him !!!

 

In any event if the only thing making him run deficits was pressure from the other parties, threatening to end his reign. Then he should have stopped doing it when he got his majority. Yet he just kept on ringing up the debt....?

 

Got any other excuses that conservative command central puts out? Sorry I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not LOL?

 

 

Not making excuses for him but once you have a deficit its hard to get out of it without slowing the economy too quickly.

 

There are lots of things Harper does that I really don't agree with.

 

I didn't like that he delayed the age for Canada pensions.

I don't like his terrorist bill

I don't like his environmental record

I don't like that he is talking about new gun laws to appease those that liked the registry...this scares me greatly.

I don't like his health care transfer patients.

I don't like how he handles natives or veterans

 

What I would like to see is a conservative minority and him resign and somebody else get the leadership.

And hopefully Justin will quit when he looses as well...Mulcair really doesn't matter I hope.

Then maybe we can have a real election with some realistic politicians that care about Canada instead of their own ego's

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Not making excuses for him but once you have a deficit its hard to get out of it without slowing the economy too quickly.

 

There are lots of things Harper does that I really don't agree with.

 

I didn't like that he delayed the age for Canada pensions.

I don't like his terrorist bill

I don't like his environmental record

I don't like that he is talking about new gun laws to appease those that liked the registry...this scares me greatly.

I don't like his health care transfer patients.

I don't like how he handles natives or veterans

 

What I would like to see is a conservative minority and him resign and somebody else get the leadership.

And hopefully Justin will quit when he looses as well...Mulcair really doesn't matter I hope.

Then maybe we can have a real election with some realistic politicians that care about Canada instead of their own ego's

So he can do basically everything wrong except for the "economy" and coming up with "balanced budgets" and then tell you that these other guys are super scary or "not ready" in some asinine resume ads or the new ads where they supposedly talk to "real" Canadians and you'll still support him? When I look at that laundry list of Bull I think to myself that it's maybe time for another party to steer this ship. I'll even admit that I've voted Conservative before too, but this thing has run its course.

 

Seriously, people. Stop living in fear and start having some optimism over what could be. It's been 10 years and no one has gotten any more optimistic over the future outlook. It's just been fear and repression the entire time.

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Seriously, people. Stop living in fear and start having some optimism over what could be. It's been 10 years and no one has gotten any more optimistic over the future outlook. It's just been fear and repression the entire time.

I don't really understand where your coming from. I certainly haven't been living in fear for the last ten years, and my outlook is pretty good. Overall I don't feel that any of the other parties can offer better than what has been. The current government has done some of what I wanted them to achieve. They've also done some things I don't support. That happens with all governments. I never lambast people online for how they vote. You want to vote ndp, fill your boots, liberal, have atter, dope party why not. Your not going to change the minds of decided voters by trying to make them feel fearful and regressive,and it's unlikely to work on the undecided either. Make your opinions known, and let everyone else fill in the blanks as they please!

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So he can do basically everything wrong except for the "economy" and coming up with "balanced budgets" and then tell you that these other guys are super scary or "not ready" in some asinine resume ads or the new ads where they supposedly talk to "real" Canadians and you'll still support him? When I look at that laundry list of Bull I think to myself that it's maybe time for another party to steer this ship. I'll even admit that I've voted Conservative before too, but this thing has run its course.

 

Seriously, people. Stop living in fear and start having some optimism over what could be. It's been 10 years and no one has gotten any more optimistic over the future outlook. It's just been fear and repression the entire time.

 

 

Its actually only been 4 years that he has had a majority and he got a great amount done with a minority.

It took a majority to get rid of gun registration

 

I do like TFSA but I think it will bite future generations, but not as bad as justins spend like a drunken sailor policy

Taxes will go up because he will not balance a budget by cutting spending.

My taxes right now are acceptable.

We didn't crash like the US.

Justin will turn us into Greece

I have lost a lot more freedom under the Prov Liberals...now they scare me

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What is it about the health care transfer payments that you do not like? They have been increasing under Harper and will continue to do despite what the Liberals and NDP try to tell you. I much prefer this to the cuts made my the Liberals during the nineties.

 

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/his-eng.asp

 

 

I maybe got that one wrong...link won't work for me. I just hear the provinces complaining so I thouht maybe there was a reason

I need to pay closer attention

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My questions remains this.....

 

 

Who to vote for?

 

I refuse to vote liberal given their past track record. Including ms/mr wynne...

 

Harper and his regime have do so many wrongs to this country that he needs to go. All our eggs in one basket, look at Alberta now.... They are on the verge of becoming a have not province... Ontario will be sending equalization payment if things don't improve.

 

Muclair, wants to bring back the gun registry, and has been shown as a poor fiscal manager.... Trade and cap etc etc this man has mortgaged his house 11 times..... Do we really want this man leading our nation?

 

I want to see Ms. May included in debates to hear their platform.... The big three refuse to allow it... Seems their scared!

 

All I know is I won't be voting red, blue or orange this election.

 

I'll be voting alternative.

 

G

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"He's just not ready."

 

"Nice hair though."

 

"Turn this country into Greece."

 

Those phony political propaganda ads actually work on you people, don't they? I'm surprised no one has brought up his supposed top priority: legalizing marijuana.

 

You do realize that Brian Mulroney was only 2 years older than Justin Trudeau when he became PM.

 

And Canada didn't suffer from the "Great Recession" because of our banking policies and regulations. It had nothing to do with Stephen Harper, as much as he'd want you to believe it.

 

And when I speak of fear it's always fear of the other guy, or fear of what might happen when I'm not around so we need to spy on all our citizens and believe there are terrorists hiding amongst the like refugees. It's like he wants you to become dependant on him like you have Stockholm syndrome. Nope, just stay the course. Don't do anything to improve our standing in the world and be very cautious about everything. But when is the right time to take a chance? If not now then never.

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I maybe got that one wrong...link won't work for me. I just hear the provinces complaining so I thouht maybe there was a reason

I need to pay closer attention

 

This is what they are complaining about.

2011

The Government of Canada announced in December 2011, that the CHT will continue to grow at six percent annually until 2016-17. Starting in 2017-18, the CHT will grow in line with a three-year moving average of nominal gross domestic product (GDP) growth, with funding guaranteed to increase by at least three percent per year. In addition the CST will continue to grow at its current rate of three percent annually in 2014-15 and beyond. The CHT and the CST will be reviewed in 2024.

I don't think it matters how much he gives the provinces; they will still want more. They want to have a minimum increase of 6% per year.

The Liberals cut health and social transfers from $18.9 billion in 1993 to $12.5 billion in 1997. The Liberals came to power in 1993 and it wasn't until 1999 they gave the provinces their first increase in funding after several years of cuts. 2003 was the first year that funding finally exceeded the level that is was at before the Liberals came to power. If the Liberals had provided 3% annual increases it would have amounted to an extra $57 billion in transfers in the first 10 years. Yet, they complain about Harper's plans to give them a minimum 3% increase (more if GDP growth supports it).

If the link doesn't work you can try Googling "History of Health and Social Transfers".

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/his-eng.asp

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Harper lost my support when he cut back on vetran's affairs,

Any one who treat their Heros like that is a slime ball in my books,

Shame on Harper and Julian Fantino !!

A politician gets life time pension after 2 terms in the office,

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We had the go ahead on a new hospital here in Grimsby, ground should have been broken already if I recall right, my riding is Conservative both federally and provincially, also Hudak's home riding, Whinny gets in and guess which hospital gets cancelled.

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We had the go ahead on a new hospital here in Grimsby, ground should have been broken already if I recall right, my riding is Conservative both federally and provincially, also Hudak's home riding, Whinny gets in and guess which hospital gets cancelled.

 

 

It must have been attached to a gas plant

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