Mike Pike Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I love wading the Grand and Speed Rivers in the KW area for bass. Lots of great ways to taget the fish, but one of my favourite ways is casting jerkbaits when conditions permit( areas with less weed, etc. ). I have a good arsenal of Rapalas jerkbaits and they are pretty light and don't cast very well when I use some of my other river rods, which are generally too stiff. So I was gonna shop for a rod specifically for this task. HuskyJerks and some deep diving cranks cast nicely, but I'm usually not using these as they snag on bottom of the shallower stretches I fish. So, light, floating jerkbaits are my usual go-to and would like your advise on the type of rod I should be shopping for.
buick14 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Spinning or baitcast? Budget? Edited February 17, 2014 by buick14
Fisherpete Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I use the same rod for this that I do when I am ripping bucktails for walleye on Rice - it's a Rapala TS2 jerkbait rod, I think it is 6'7" or so. Around $50. If I'm on a lake with smaller pike/bass this is my favourite technique.
porkpie Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I used a 7 foot 2 piece st. Croix eye con last year for lighter plugs. Matched with a Stradic ci 1000 and 10lb nanofil with a fluoro leader, the outfit is extremely light and can cast light baits a mile. It is listed as a fast action bait rigging rod, but that's just a guideline. It does however make an excellent live bait rod! I have the 7'6" eyecon as well, a little stiffer, but also an excellent value. They run around $110 a piece give or take, depending where you buy.
Mike Pike Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Posted February 17, 2014 Spinning or baitcast? Budget? Sorry, spinning for sure. Budget not really an issue. I'm single. lol
Mike Pike Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) I used a 7 foot 2 piece st. Croix eye con last year for lighter plugs. Matched with a Stradic ci 1000 and 10lb nanofil with a fluoro leader, the outfit is extremely light and can cast light baits a mile. It is listed as a fast action bait rigging rod, but that's just a guideline. It does however make an excellent live bait rod! I have the 7'6" eyecon as well, a little stiffer, but also an excellent value. They run around $110 a piece give or take, depending where you buy. I just checked the St. Croix site and looked at those Eyecon's and there a 7'6" slip n rig that looks like I should check out. Again it talks about bait rigging as you said which would be good as that's my back up when wading rivers anyway. Edited February 17, 2014 by Mike Pike
Lunatic Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 i have a shimano crucial frog rod i think is good for long throws. MH extra fast tip. its got lots of backbone with a whippy tip.my favourite rod ive ever owned so far.
manjo39 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 Check out: http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/rods/Crucial_Family/Crucial_Bass_Spinning_Jerkbait.html It has a shorter butt section, which is ideal for jerkbaiting so it does not hit your arm torso when jerking.
Lape0019 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I grabbed a Megabass Orochi XX Jerkbait special to try out this year by it is a casting rod. Before this, I used a medium power fast action shimano compre with a Stradic CI4. It handled jerkbaits quite well and didn't cost much. It was also a great stick to throw tubes and weightless plastics on.
musky_hunter Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I now use the Megabass xx orochi jerkbait special as well. For spinning rod I use a Simax TS jerkbait. I use a Simax Exclusive 6'6" medium for the smaller jerks like OSP Asura and 110 Jr.
porkpie Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I just checked the St. Croix site and looked at those Eyecon's and there a 7'6" slip n rig that looks like I should check out. Again it talks about bait rigging as you said which would be good as that's my back up when wading rivers anyway. I have both those rods, I like them both. I use the 7'6" for tossing husky jerks and x raps but the 7 is a touch softer and I use it for small jerks etc. great rods, very multi purpose!
sauce Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I picked up a 6'6" one piece MH Fast crucial. The last series they made with cork, the butt on this rod is short. You could probably find one on ebay. Paired with a 2500 ci4 it's my lightest combo. The tip feels weightless, wicked when you get hit on a pause. And its got lots of backbone for solid hooksets. This is a great rod for bombing #10 xraps with 10 lb braid in rivers. No need for leaders. I like 6'6" for maneuverability. Casting under trees, setting hooks under trees etc. I've tried 7'and up and find that longer rods are more of a hassle for the minimal gain in casting distance. The new "all black" series is nice but feel tip heavy. Maybe with a heavier reel like a 3500 FJ it would balance better. If you can spend over $200 try to find any loomis in 783 or 784 with a short butt. I don't see many st croix rods in this action.
sauce Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 Oh ya, and here's a tip. Try flat raps just under the surface with short twitches and pauses in those shallow sections. #9 & 11 cast like bullets. Keep them outta the weeds and rocks though, the lip is glued on. Not meant for bumping cover. Good luck. Just thinking about river smallies on the jerk is uplifting.
Mike Pike Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Posted February 18, 2014 Thanks kindly for the advice Guys. I've checked the websites of some of the rods mentioned, written down the models, and now need to go and get 'em in my hand. Very appricative of everyone who took time. I never mind spending money on good gear, as long as it's a well researched and well thought through purchase. And thanks for the advice on the Flat Raps, Sauce. Haven't fished 'em yet but their nice shallow running depth sounds like something that will suit me well.
captpierre Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Personally, I struggle with having multiple rods for different types of lures. I feel it is mostly marketing by manufacturers. I think line is important. Huge difference in action at the end of the line between mono and braid. Softer tip with braid, I say. Need a bit of shock absorber. Hooks getting ripped out of mouth with too hard a hookset. With smallies that tend to jump, mono and or softer tip keeps hooks engaged into lip rather than braid that goes temporarily limp when fish's head bends toward road when fish in the air.
JoshS Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I was just browsing the classifieds here... there's a 6'6 crucial MH (cork handle) spinning rod that'll be good all round for jerkbaits. You want shorter than 7' IMO, 6'6 MH is nice, longer if you're wading will be tough. Edited February 18, 2014 by JoshS
aniceguy Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 The manufacturer is soley driven by your budget and the feel of a rod in your hand, dont get caught up in price point or anyone promoting a brand. If your looking for a bait casting set up then a good 7'0 Med or med/Hvy. both with a Mod/Fast Action the med or med heavy really depends on the size of Jerk bait your throwing. If its on a spining reel and you want a more agressive retrive then a 6-3 med fast shorter rod for a quicker snap on a spinning reel If its large mouth then a rod more suited to crankbaits like a 7-0 7-2 glass rod with a med -fast action is more suited for a slower jerk and longer pause for large mouth
singingdog Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 The other option is to fish jerkbaits that run shallow, but cast better. The LC flashminnow is a good example. Fish it with your rod tip up and you can keep it in the top 1' of water, and it casts much better than a floating rap.
Mike Pike Posted February 19, 2014 Author Report Posted February 19, 2014 The other option is to fish jerkbaits that run shallow, but cast better. The LC flashminnow is a good example. Fish it with your rod tip up and you can keep it in the top 1' of water, and it casts much better than a floating rap. Thanks for that heads-up Dog. I'll look for 'em as well as FlatRaps that Sauce told me about. Just thinking about wading for bass at this time of year kinda warms the heart! lol
singingdog Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 If you can find the flashminnows, you will find that they get hit on days that rapalas don't. The flashminnows have a much more subtle action than the floating raps.
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