dave524 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) Is this enough fine? ???? how do you attach a .pdf??? this link also gives the details http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120622/company-fined-asian-carp-1200622/20120622?hub=TorontoNewHome Edited June 23, 2012 by dave524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Not nearly enough, the fines should be big enough to wipe out walmart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bailey Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Not nearly enough, the fines should be big enough to wipe out walmart! x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Not nearly enough, the fines should be big enough to wipe out walmart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammercarp Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 From the article "In the Mississippi River the carp, which are meat-eating predators, have destroyed large parts of the ecosystem, decimating the small-fish population, which leaves no food for larger species, including salmon and trout." Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 and yet they farm this thing in North America ??? Sounds like a recipe for trouble imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry2Rs Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 From the article "In the Mississippi River the carp, which are meat-eating predators, have destroyed large parts of the ecosystem, decimating the small-fish population, which leaves no food for larger species, including salmon and trout." Really. What are you saying? There's not a great trout and salmon fishery in the Mississippi? HAHAHA...But then again, when have you ever known a reporter to get the story right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Field Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Their business licence should have been cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFish4real Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Not nearly enough, the fines should be big enough to wipe out walmart! hehe, Canada would become very rich cause Walmart is worth more then countries like...Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 hehe, Canada would become very rich cause Walmart is worth more then countries like...Sweden On a side note has anyone bee tweeting #artificialswedener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoz Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I think they were caught in a secret honey-hole in the Rouge River. . . . they grow pretty fast out there, eh? Put 5 pounders in there in April . . . . catch 10 pounders in the summer! My bet is there are already Asian carp, somewhere out along the Great Lakes, getting ready to hit our shores. The officials only got ONE truckload, how many did they miss? How many fish tanks in small fish markets have them swimming around? Better lay out the welcome mats NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest piker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 50 grand is harsh but fair. I'm sure the fish were intended to be D.O.A but someone on the U.S side didnt to there job right. As long as the concquence for importing live fish across the border well out weighs the potential profit for smuggling. Not sure what the premium is for live fish v dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 All the shareholders/owners/managing directors of the company should have gotten a 3yr MANDATORY jail term, and the laws need to be changed to make that the penalty for this. The driver should get 2yrs MANDATORY in jail, for being too ignorant to check his damn cargo to see that it complied with the law... Everyone knows that if able to, certain cultures will release these fish alive into one of the Great Lakes as a ritual. That can not be stopped, only the supply of the carp can be. If enough of them get released they will establish a breeding population very quickly. Since these carp are "cold" water species, and were able to over run over all other species in the warm waters of the Mississippi, just imagine what they will do in water with cooler temperatures. The cost if they get established will likely be the decimation of a fishery worth upwards of 6 BILLION a year on both sides of the border. That is NINE zeros folks. It is time to stop playing games with these importers, and let them stay on the public's dime for a lengthy spell to get their attention. Fines don't seem to be stopping this from happening, especially since the fines are proabably never paid. It only costs a few grand to collapse a company, leaving it unable to pay the fines, and start another one the following week, with all the equipment and assets intact... I am sure some lawyers are working on doing that right now for these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 All the shareholders/owners/managing directors of the company should have gotten a 3yr MANDATORY jail term, and the laws need to be changed to make that the penalty for this. The driver should get 2yrs MANDATORY in jail, for being too ignorant to check his damn cargo to see that it complied with the law... Wow man, I can appreciate you're hatred for this, but jail sentences? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bailey Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wow man, I can appreciate you're hatred for this, but jail sentences? LOL. A crime against the environment is the worst crime possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 A crime against the environment is the worst crime possible. It's Sunday, so I'll assume you've been drinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 It's Sunday, so I'll assume you've been drinking And I think you have too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm curious about this part of the story... "Though the fish had been on ice for 24 hours, since being shipped from a fish farm in Arkansas, when a border official put some of the fish into a bucket of water, the fish came back to life." Unless the shipper and/or importer had full knowledge that the carp could survive and recover from 24+ hours on ice, this may very well have been a major fluke. I have no idea either, what fish can take that much time on ice so am keeping an open mind that someone may have found a work around to getting live carp into the country. Go after shippers and importers and hit them hard in the apple sack if they can be proven to have engaged in illegal importation of live, banned fish. If this is indeed the fourth time this type of activity has been caught, I would like to know if the other cases involved the same fish farm. Googling Fortune Fisheries (the importing company) didn't bring up much as I wanted to see if they've been through this dance before and if this was a strike 2 or 3 for them. tbh, I find the case of the couple that dumped live fish into the Rouge (a proven deliberate act), scarier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindude Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 That fine was not nearly enough at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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