vinnimon Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ive post before hand on my plans and all were great on a personally built planner board mast, built awesome actually. Ive purchased 2 penn 309 reels that I thought that work perfectly with the line, BUT!!!No, it didnt, it held half the line and there is too much friction in the line guide So Now im looking for another option to reel the line in with. Yes i can buy the walker reels, but I dont want too. Im looking to make something different and possibly add an option to the reel in time(a ring gear) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outllaw Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 go to crappy tire buy 2 large pulleys. get 2 barbecue handles the round ones drill the pully install handles on the pulleys and board mast. bigger pulleys pick up more line per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 How about a winch from a boat trailer? They also sell the electric winches at Can Tire and Princess Auto that are quite cheap. They have remotes and you could just push a button to bring in the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 How about a winch from a boat trailer? They also sell the electric winches at Can Tire and Princess Auto that are quite cheap. They have remotes and you could just push a button to bring in the boards. I was thinking that...but they are less then 1:1 ratio aren't they...? That would be lots of cranking to bring in all that line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I was thinking that...but they are less then 1:1 ratio aren't they...? That would be lots of cranking to bring in all that line... They also sell the electric winches at Can Tire and Princess Auto that are quite cheap. They have remotes and you could just push a button to bring in the boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 They also sell the electric winches at Can Tire and Princess Auto that are quite cheap. They have remotes and you could just push a button to bring in the boards Very true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) FWIW, for 30 years now I've had a mast that plugs into the seat hole on the front casting platform, never used reels, use a piece of cedar 1X3" with a U notch in the both ends about 30 " long and pull them in and wrap on the stick like we did with a kite when a kid. OK, you can't adjust the length I use 100 feet of heavy weed whacker line with a big swivel like you would use on a downrigger cable at both ends, find it easier than cranking and cranking on a small diameter direct drive reel. Edited May 9, 2012 by dave524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvanOwner Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 FWIW, for 30 years now I've had a mast that plugs into the seat hole on the front casting platform, never used reels, use a piece of cedar 1X3" with a U notch in the both ends about 30 " long and pull them in and wrap on the stick like we did with a kite when a kid. OK, you can't adjust the length I use 100 feet of heavy weed whacker line with a big swivel like you would use on a downrigger cable at both ends, find it easier than cranking and cranking on a small diameter direct drive reel. Nice, good old reliable manual work!! I've been thinking about the seat post base routine as well. Don't kite flyers now even have fancy hand over hand winding pulley like devices for easing the burden of retrieving your kite that look to me like they would really work well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Nice, good old reliable manual work!! I've been thinking about the seat post base routine as well. Don't kite flyers now even have fancy hand over hand winding pulley like devices for easing the burden of retrieving your kite that look to me like they would really work well? My mast is actually a 5 foot section of galv TV tower masthead with a couple of eye bolts at the top for attaching the lines at the bottom it is welded to a 3 inch square plate with a piece of solid round stock to fit the hole for the seat. Edit: with a 30" stick each wrap is 5 feet, you would need a 18" reel to recover that much per turn Edited May 9, 2012 by dave524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Dave524 was the way I started to do it when I built my first mast. Fixed length of line and I attached to coat rack hooks on each side of the mast and wound the line back in around the hooks.At the end of the day put the boat into neutral and hand line the boards back in. I've seen another neat system where they used galvanized cloth line pulleys, mounted on a cross bar attached to the mast. They drilled out a hole on each pulley spool and fastened a handle to each to wind the line back in. To lock down the pulley when line is out they just put a hook and eye type system in around the pulley openings on the spool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvanOwner Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) My mast is actually a 5 foot section of galv TV tower masthead with a couple of eye bolts at the top for attaching the lines at the bottom it is welded to a 3 inch square plate with a piece of solid round stock to fit the hole for the seat. Very nice...... Edit: with a 30" stick each wrap is 5 feet, you would need a 18" reel to recover that much per turn Those are impressive numbers for sure and probably better than what I was thinking, this is it by the way; http://careywinders.com/2.html. Try googling "kite winder" and you'll see some other interesting designs. Edited May 10, 2012 by SylvanOwner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 i just used the plastic spools that the planer board line came on with stainless hole covers (to cover old plumbing or electrical holes in tiles and such) on each end, put 2 bearings in each end of the spools, made up a handle and they were good to go. they do take longer to reel in, but it works for me and i had all the stuff around the house. one thing i've been having trouble figuring out is i used stainless rod going through the mast and mounted a reel on each side, but the turning spools tighten or loosen the knobs that hold the reels on. i've tried clear hose and then springs on the rod to prevent the spools from spinning the knobs off and it works fine if free spooling, but when i tighten the "drag" to slowly let line out it'll turn the knobs. is there something i can use on the rod or in the knobs (threaded brass inserts) that'll act like a lock nut preventing the knobs form turning with the spools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 you built the boards yet? i made up a set of folding ones out of cedar and aluminum that work very well for less than it costs to buy one store bought folding one. i could post pics for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Field Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 What about using clothes line pulleys? I use to own home made down riggers with clothes line pulleys for the spools and they worked just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) nice boards. i prefer this design that permits the boards to fold down without touching any hardware and risking loosing something. the holes are off center so they'll fold one way and stop when the boards are fully open. the angle with all the holes isn't really necessary, but i had never used boards before so i had no clue where to mount the line holder to make the boards run right. i also went with natural wood to avoid touching up chipped paint in the future and the wood soaks up some water making them pull even better. they work very well. as for the mast, i went with some aluminum pipe that fits in the seat bases perfectly to avoid drilling holes and adding a base. and a pic of the rod holders that use the seat post. again, i didn't want to drill holes or have mounting plates in the boat. Edited May 11, 2012 by ch312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishdawg Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) my mast set up: mast, 4 rod "rocket launcher" & net holder it looks bush league but is quite functional (net handle is 12 feet long) Edited May 12, 2012 by fishdawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 how do those eye bolts work on the mast? i was going to use replacement pulleys off big jon riggers, but couldn't find any so i used steel pulleys. last trip i noticed some abrasion on the board line from rubbing on the edge of the pulley. how long have you been using that mast and have you noticed any wear from those eye bolts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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