Cudz Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I totally understand pulling the goalie when you are down by 1 goal with a minute or a minute and a half left in the game. I can even (but just barely) wrap my head around pulling the goalie when you are down by 2 goals. I just watched the end of the leafs' game and they are down 4 - 1 and decide to pull the goaklie with 1min 30 left. Maybe it is just me and I am not being an optimist but come on, really? Am I missing something here? And yes, Phoenix scored an empty netter to make it 5 to 1. I just don't get it. Losing by 3 or losing by 4 I guess makes no difference. Edited January 14, 2011 by Cudz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikeMolester Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 no difference between losing by 3 or 4. Its a pretty bonehead move...but I guess he wanted to show he's fighting to the very end and maybe something magical will happen as opposed to sitting back and accepting defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyb Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 3 goals in 1:30 is do-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaalpha Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 maybe just for the real game practice of pulling the goalie...it's probably difficult to actually simulate that feeling of really not wanting to have that empty netter scored against you. That and the pressure of NEEDING to score in that final minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjcanoe Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 maybe Wilson should have offered $601 for the winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince.bornais Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I don't understand what all the fuss is about. If you're watching the leafs, you've already decided you're not that interested in hockey anyway!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 3 goals in 1:30 is do-able. Rich, really need to read the post first, there talking about the leafs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Toronto needs six skaters to even have a chance against PHX. Go PHX Go! Thanks for the two points, Leafs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvette1 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 boston got 3 in 2.21 in pitt the other night 5-1 or 10-1 its a loss might just as well go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 They scored 4 goals during a 5 minute power play against the Thrashers so giving yourself an extra man advantage to try and score 3 goals is not out of the question. Not probable but possible, so why not try? 4-1 or 5-1, what's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) They scored 4 goals during a 5 minute power play against the Thrashers so giving yourself an extra man advantage to try and score 3 goals is not out of the question. Not probable but possible, so why not try? 4-1 or 5-1, what's the difference. Really?????? I don't believe this is possible. All these situations of possibilities you people are coming up with occur when a team in on the powerplay or at equal strength. I would like to see a team score 3 goals without a goalie in their own net. The leafs were not on a powerplay at the end of the game so it 6 on 5. I can't find any historical evidence that 3 goals have been scored by a team in the last minute and a half with their goalie pulled. Edited January 14, 2011 by Cudz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Really?????? I don't believe this is possible. All these situations of possibilities you people are coming up with occur when a team in on the powerplay or at equal strength. I would like to see a team score 3 goals without a goalie in their own net. The leafs were not on a powerplay at the end of the game so it 6 on 5. I can't find any historical evidence that 3 goals have been scored by a team in the last minute and a half with their goalie pulled. So, what you're saying is that there's a greater possibility of scoring 3 goals in a minute and a half WITHOUT pulling your goalie? You may be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) there's no reason not to pull the goalie. coaches generally endorse the 'never quit' attitude, and typically to get players to buy into anything you have to lead by example. there's a slight chance you can tie the game, and if you're that convinced you have no chance to win, it's still good for practice. skating drills don't really prepare you for the actual pressure of the moment when you got a man up and an empty net. Edited January 14, 2011 by Dr. Salvelinus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 So, what you're saying is that there's a greater possibility of scoring 3 goals in a minute and a half WITHOUT pulling your goalie? You may be right. NOPE! What I am saying is that there is a lower possibility of scoring three goals in a row without having the other team get even 1 shot (which would result in a goal) against your net. I can find many situtions in the past where a team has scored 3 goals in less thn 1 min 30 secs but have yet to find that same result with the goalie pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokestackLightnin Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I don' t know, the Russians scored 2 goals in 13 seconds against the Canadian Juniors. Also, if puck pressure is enough the defensive team could take a penalty for delay of game (shooting over glass from defensive zone) or a stick penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 NOPE! What I am saying is that there is a lower possibility of scoring three goals in a row without having the other team get even 1 shot (which would result in a goal) against your net. I can find many situtions in the past where a team has scored 3 goals in less thn 1 min 30 secs but have yet to find that same result with the goalie pulled. Ya, that's what I said Cudz. I'm actually agreeing with you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Ya, that's what I said Cudz. I'm actually agreeing with you now. Yeah sorry, I realized that after I reread your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglyfish Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 having an extra skater will give the team an advantage. howeve, as we see its a risky move should they get an empty netter. ive seen teams score 2 goals within a minute with the goalie pulled, so 3 could be done as well, though i opersonally dont ever remember seeing it done. but not many times will they pull the goalie down 3. only wilson knows why he did it. but bottom line, whether u lose by 1 goal or 10 goals.... u still lost. goal differential means nothing in the NHL, except bragging rights. as with anything... if they did score the 3 and tie it up, not only would it be historical, but everyone would be praising wilson for pulling it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow slayer Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have coached alot of rep hockey the last 10 years and you never accept defeat until the game is over. What is the difference losing 4-1 or 5-1,send the message to the players that you play to the end no matter what the score is other wise you are a quitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have coached alot of rep hockey the last 10 years and you never accept defeat until the game is over. What is the difference losing 4-1 or 5-1,send the message to the players that you play to the end no matter what the score is other wise you are a quitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikeMolester Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I don't understand what all the fuss is about. If you're watching the leafs, you've already decided you're not that interested in hockey anyway!!! ahahHAHAHa THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Someone have the under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 sometimes its more about the message you send as a coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Someone have the under? I didn't but if I were a gambler and I did, I would be irate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have coached alot of rep hockey the last 10 years and you never accept defeat until the game is over. What is the difference losing 4-1 or 5-1,send the message to the players that you play to the end no matter what the score is other wise you are a quitter. You have coached a lot of rep hockey and I have played a lot of rep hockey. Not pulling the goalie when you are down by 3 with just over a minute left does not mean that you are a quitter. The difference between 5-1 and 4-1 is 1. But losing 4-1 sounds like you might have been in teh game, 5-1 not so much. Plus it makes the goalies GAA increase when they get pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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