Truck tires

[Gerry]

Fish Farmer: you've probably got the 20 inch tires. I have the 20 inch Pirellis on my F150 FX4 and they are expensive. Do yourself a favor and drive over to Niagara Falls, NY......you'll save $100 a tire.

[Fish Farmer]

Thanks Gerry, No there 18" CTC don't even carry them, they say there special order.

[T Fisher]

I bought four yokohama's for my Silverado. Yes they were new made in Japan for $560 installed balanced the price is half of what they sold for in Ontario. Drive 1.5 hours south to Barffalo buy your Mrs dinner at the new casino and save a bundle.

[bdox]

I put on a set of 31x10.5 Goodyear Duratracs last summer and they are kick ass tires. They got me out of a bunch of sticky situations, except once when they weren't big enough to keep my diff off the ground

[Canuck2fan]

I have to agree with the Michelins over the Goodyears.... I had a set of Wranglers on my jeep one time and I couldn't stop or steer in the wet or snow. Threw on some Michelin M/S for winter and NEVER had an issue off road or on the highway. I did keep the Wranglers for the summer as they looked good but were pure crap on anything but a sunny day....

[DanD]

If people are throwing out pricing; I can sell & install a set of LT265/70R17 load range C (6ply) Silent Armor for $1120.00; that’s with OTS (Ontario Tire Stewardship fee), valve stems, balancing and tax’s included.

HST will not affect tire pricing; we’ve always have had to charge both P & GST; 13 % is 13% whatever you want to call it.

Or the pro-grade load range E (10 ply) Silent Armor for $1196.95. all in.

The load capacity of the C tire is 2470lbs@50psi compared to the E that is 3195lbs@80 psi.

The E load rated tire will ride somewhat harder but it’ll carry almost any weight you throw at it.

The Silent Armor doesn’t actually have the AT rating but Goodyear’s propaganda sheet says it’s a “Premium on-/off- road tire”?

Then there’s an $80.00 mail-in rebate on a set of four.

If you’re interested; my shop is here in London. 519-681-3844

 

PS: I just did a quick count of different Goodyear Wrangler tires and I found 13 types in the main listing and didn’t look at how many sub groups there were. So if you buy the wrong tire for your application sure they’re going to seem like crap.

 

Dan.

[DRIFTER_016]

If people are throwing out pricing; I can sell & install a set of LT265/70R17 load range C (6ply) Silent Armor for $1120.00; that’s with OTS (Ontario Tire Stewardship fee), valve stems, balancing and tax’s included.

HST will not affect tire pricing; we’ve always have had to charge both P & GST; 13 % is 13% whatever you want to call it.

Or the pro-grade load range E (10 ply) Silent Armor for $1196.95. all in.

The load capacity of the C tire is 2470lbs@50psi compared to the E that is 3195lbs@80 psi.

The E load rated tire will ride somewhat harder but it’ll carry almost any weight you throw at it.

The Silent Armor doesn’t actually have the AT rating but Goodyear’s propaganda sheet says it’s a “Premium on-/off- road tire”?

Then there’s an $80.00 mail-in rebate on a set of four.

If you’re interested; my shop is here in London. 519-681-3844

 

PS: I just did a quick count of different Goodyear Wrangler tires and I found 13 types in the main listing and didn’t look at how many sub groups there were. So if you buy the wrong tire for your application sure they’re going to seem like crap.

 

Dan.

 

The E rated tires shoud not be purchased for general purpose use. The only negative reviews I saw out of over 300 I read were people who bough the E rated tires and weren't hauling an in bed camper or 5th wheel. The complaints were a hash ride. Every single review I read about the C rated tires was glowing and there wasn't a single complaint. If you do need the E rated for heavy hauling make sure to air them down when not hauling to improve the ride.

[jjcanoe]

If people are throwing out pricing; I can sell & install a set of LT265/70R17 load range C (6ply) Silent Armor for $1120.00; that’s with OTS (Ontario Tire Stewardship fee), valve stems, balancing and tax’s included.

HST will not affect tire pricing; we’ve always have had to charge both P & GST; 13 % is 13% whatever you want to call it.

Or the pro-grade load range E (10 ply) Silent Armor for $1196.95. all in.

The load capacity of the C tire is 2470lbs@50psi compared to the E that is 3195lbs@80 psi.

The E load rated tire will ride somewhat harder but it’ll carry almost any weight you throw at it.

The Silent Armor doesn’t actually have the AT rating but Goodyear’s propaganda sheet says it’s a “Premium on-/off- road tire”?

Then there’s an $80.00 mail-in rebate on a set of four.

If you’re interested; my shop is here in London. 519-681-3844

 

PS: I just did a quick count of different Goodyear Wrangler tires and I found 13 types in the main listing and didn’t look at how many sub groups there were. So if you buy the wrong tire for your application sure they’re going to seem like crap.

 

Dan.

A second set of snows are way, way out of the budget, and snow/mud traction is important to me.

Is there a big difference in fuel economy with between the A/T's and the all seasons?

Don't do any in bed hauling other than gear for the cottage/camping,(a few 100 lbs at most).... I do tow my boat here and there it weighs in at around 1000lbs but I'm guessing that it wouldn't affect the load range of the tire I would need, (correct me if I'm wrong)

 

jjcanoe

[Raf]

Is there a big difference in fuel economy with between the A/T's and the all seasons?

 

I have not noticed any difference in fuel economy. They may or may not be a little noisier, especially if you go with a really aggressive tire -- that's a non-issue for me but, some people don't like it -- it certainly won't be like running a bias ply mud terrain though.

 

A second set of snows are way, way out of the budget, and snow/mud traction is important to me.

 

I think an A/T tire is for you then.

[DanD]

The C load range is likely all you would need weight carrying wise. As for the traction; I just called my supplier and had a look at the tread design of the Silent Armor and of the Wrangler AT/S and they’re not that different. Yes possibly the AT/S may be a bit more aggressive tread but that’ll also make them quite noisy on the road.

When these AT/S come off of backorder (min one month), they’ll sell at the same price as the Silent Armor C rated tire; which the AT/S are as well (C rate).

The Silent Armor also comes with an 80,000klm tread wear warrantee; the AT/S doesn’t. You didn’t say whether this truck is 2 or 4 wheel drive; if it’s a 2 wheel drive, it’s not going any further in the mud, then what the drive train can push it; regardless of the tire.

 

Dan.

[jjcanoe]

The C load range is likely all you would need weight carrying wise. As for the traction; I just called my supplier and had a look at the tread design of the Silent Armor and of the Wrangler AT/S and they’re not that different. Yes possibly the AT/S may be a bit more aggressive tread but that’ll also make them quite noisy on the road.

When these AT/S come off of backorder (min one month), they’ll sell at the same price as the Silent Armor C rated tire; which the AT/S are as well (C rate).

The Silent Armor also comes with an 80,000klm tread wear warrantee; the AT/S doesn’t. You didn’t say whether this truck is 2 or 4 wheel drive; if it’s a 2 wheel drive, it’s not going any further in the mud, then what the drive train can push it; regardless of the tire.

 

Dan.

2005 dodge ram 1500 5.7 4x4!

[SlowPoke]

You didn’t say whether this truck is 2 or 4 wheel drive; if it’s a 2 wheel drive, it’s not going any further in the mud, then what the drive train can push it; regardless of the tire.

 

He's got a 4x4 and his idea of off-road is a little different than mine. He's talking about getting stuck on wet grass No bush whacking for that Dodge, it's too pretty!

 

Raf; no difference in fuel economy? I went from 20.2mpg to 14.39mpg overnight when switching my Tahoe from All Seasons to All Terrain (Toyo Open Country).

Your mileage will vary (figuratively and literally) when switching to AT's depending on brand and tread design.

[Raf]

Raf; no difference in fuel economy? I went from 20.2mpg to 14.39mpg overnight when switching my Tahoe from All Seasons to All Terrain (Toyo Open Country).

Your mileage will vary (figuratively and literally) when switching to AT's depending on brand and tread design.

 

absolutely.. mileage will vary with tires. on my jeep, it sucked with no-seasons and it sucks with ATs but no noticeable difference in suckiness. if there is a difference, it's very small.

Edited May 11, 2010 by Raf

[SlowPoke]

absolutely.. mileage will vary with tires. on my jeep, it sucked with no-seasons and it sucks with ATs but no noticeable difference in suckiness. if there is a difference, it's very small.

 

I wasn't keeping track of mileage with my Cherokee but I do remember the A/S to A/T switch being.... sobering. Then again, I added 5" of suspension and 4" of tire.

[DRIFTER_016]

A second set of snows are way, way out of the budget, and snow/mud traction is important to me.

Is there a big difference in fuel economy with between the A/T's and the all seasons?

Don't do any in bed hauling other than gear for the cottage/camping,(a few 100 lbs at most).... I do tow my boat here and there it weighs in at around 1000lbs but I'm guessing that it wouldn't affect the load range of the tire I would need, (correct me if I'm wrong)

 

jjcanoe

 

 

No need for load range E tires on your vehicle.

I have been very impressed with the ice, snow traction of the Wrangler Silent Armors so far. They are also very quiet considering their agressive profile and gas mileage has not been impacted significantly since I switched from the all seasons that came with the vehicle.

[ecmilley]

looking at my catalouge and i am not seeing a listing for a LT tire for 1500 series dodge hemi sure it's not a p245/70r17?

[DanD]

Tires can be a personal preference item and you’re doing the right thing by putting out your questions. I deal mostly in Goodyear; I do have lines on different tires, just maybe not as good a break on the other name brands. Like I said if you’re interested I’m here in town; give me a call or stop into the shop and we can do some phone shopping using my shops discount (whatever that might be) to see what’s out there and what we can get them for.

You can have the tires at my cost and I’ll charge you $20.00 a wheel to mount & balance. That’s how I priced the Silent Armor earlier and I don’t care what brand of rubber you buy. Even if you do a cash & carry from another store; I’ll still mount them for you at that price.

 

Dan.

[jjcanoe]

He's got a 4x4 and his idea of off-road is a little different than mine. He's talking about getting stuck on wet grass No bush whacking for that Dodge, it's too pretty!

 

Raf; no difference in fuel economy? I went from 20.2mpg to 14.39mpg overnight when switching my Tahoe from All Seasons to All Terrain (Toyo Open Country).

Your mileage will vary (figuratively and literally) when switching to AT's depending on brand and tread design.

 

That wet grass thing was with my RWD Dakota , my off road vs Slowpokes = I don't have a snorkle and 40" of clearance for my Diff!

I'm getting 15.5 mpg with this truck and my foot isn't nearly as big as Slowpokes

 

absolutely.. mileage will vary with tires. on my jeep, it sucked with no-seasons and it sucks with ATs but no noticeable difference in suckiness. if there is a difference, it's very small.

 

Jeeps of any kind are notoriously bad on fuel mileage due to the big flat windshield. I get 6.0 MPG with my frieghtliner

[jjcanoe]

looking at my catalouge and i am not seeing a listing for a LT tire for 1500 series dodge hemi sure it's not a p245/70r17?

yep 265!

[vince.bornais]

I have a 1500 Ram & I just put on Bridgstone Dueler AT Revo 2's for about $1000. I've had them on another vehicle I owned & they are very good in winter, very aggressive tire. Tirerack.com is a good site, but it is American & most of the inputs are from the southern states where snow is not in the weather, at least for what I read anyway.

[Uncle Buck]

All-Terrain tires have a softer tread compound.. they are more prone to wearing...

 

also tire rotation and air pressure is much more crucial for an A/T tire then an all season...

 

i had yokahama Geolander AT+2 on the envoy... they "cleaned" mud out great but only got 2 years out of them...

 

also most people rate their tires after 5,000 or 10,000km... all tires are great then... 3-5 years down the road is a different story though...

[mrpike]

I just picked -up MICHLINS 255/70R-16 LTX A/2 . FOR MY YUKON 4X4 FOR $204.00 EACH X 4 INSTALLED. AT factory tire in REXDALE. TOTAL COST OUT THE DOOR WAS $1O20.35 BEST PRICE I COULD FIND .

[ecmilley]

JJ I manage a active green and ross location as well as work in the back turning a wrench sometimes, no matter the deal i could give you on tires there isn't much margin in them ,anything I could save you you would use in time and fuel.

Dans offer is genourous and he is local to you i would suggest you go see him, his prices are pretty much spot on to mine

[jjcanoe]

JJ I manage a active green and ross location as well as work in the back turning a wrench sometimes, no matter the deal i could give you on tires there isn't much margin in them ,anything I could save you you would use in time and fuel.

Dans offer is genourous and he is local to you i would suggest you go see him, his prices are pretty much spot on to mine

 

Thanks for all the help guys, Dan I'll get a hold of you sometime this week!

 

jjcanoe

[DanD]

I’ve got an appointment tomorrow away from the shop; so I won’t be here after 2pm; but I’ll be here all day Friday or at least most of it; if I can’t sneak away. LOL

I will also tell my one tech (Dave) that you might be calling or stopping in and what the deal is for the tires or mounting of tires.

Just tell him you’re an OFC’er and he’ll look after you.

The name of the shop is D&S Auto and we’re at 90 Bessemer Rd. Unit #6; corner of Bessemer Rd. & Bessemer Court.

Even if we don't strike a deal on tires; it'll be nice to meet you.

 

Dan.