rbaquial Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 Whats the LARGEST hook that can be used for steelheads? In contrast, whats the SMALLEST? Just a curious question...Right now I'm using size 8. Wondering if there's a need for a plethora of hooks? Also, is there a COMMON SIZE that can be used? Or, is there a particular reason an angler would choose a LARGER hook, over a SMALLER hook for Steelhead? Thanks OFC'ers! I hope to one day join the "Steelheader" group! Still chasin' after the "Illusive". RoB
drwxr Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) anything bigger than 10 is snagging , i use 12-14 Edited April 1, 2009 by efka
rbaquial Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Posted April 1, 2009 Based on 2 common replies, do you guys (KelFun & efka) advise I try using 12-14 size hooks? Do you think size 8 is too small?? (or is there such a thing as too small for steelhead) I'm asking, cause I'm new to this type of fishing
rbaquial Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) 8's are tooooo big! Ok, now I'm officially confused... how does the hook-sizing/system work? It's #8 hook by Raven if that helps any.... Edited April 1, 2009 by Addikted2Fishin'
Sinker Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 bigger the number, smaller the hook. 12, 14 and maybe 16's if your running single eggs or something.......maybe a #10 if its dirty and your running bigger bait. Sinker
muddler Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 Use whatever hook size you want as long as your offering looks natural and you are not sacrificing hooking power. I use size 6 on 4 inch worms, size 8 on large roe bags and pinkies, mostly 10 an 12 on small roe bags and 12 and 14 for singles. muddler
Alumacraft Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 addikted you have too remember that all the hook makers use the system of the larger the # the smaller the hook but, their sizes will not be the same. A # 8 mustad 92141 is actual smaller than a size #12 raven specialist. There is even a difference in size from the same company if you look at a # 12 raven specialist and a #12 octopuss the #12 octopuss hook is much smaller.So depending on the hook maker no a #8 is not too big. I personally run Mustads 92141 in #8's also mustad 9523 in #10,12, and14's I also use Raven's specialist #10 & 12 and a #12 octopuss. Hope this clears up your confusion Rob
wallacio Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) Use whatever hook size you want as long as your offering looks natural and you are not sacrificing hooking power. I use size 6 on 4 inch worms, size 8 on large roe bags and pinkies, mostly 10 an 12 on small roe bags and 12 and 14 for singles. muddler This is probably the best advise offered so far in this thread. It's all about balancing hooking power vs a natural presentation as the conditions and bait dictate. S. Ontario steelheaders are notorious for "over-finessing" everything from leader strength to shot size to hook size. Guys in Michigan laugh at us when we use "tiny" size 8 and 10 hooks. In fact, when Solopaddler and I were fishing the lower Manistee last fall we were running size 2's or even larger as we were using big huge bags for incredibly hot, aggressive fish. Using anything less meant a lot of pulled hooks, or even straightened hooks when really trying to muscle a hot fish. On the otherhand, if you are targetting spooky fish in clear water with single eggs, 14's or 16's are the way to go. Personally I generally follow what Muddler has described with Daiichi 1150's in size 10 being my go-to hook when fishing with roe under ideal or "green" conditions. Edited April 1, 2009 by wallacio
BillM Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 I usually run 12 or 14's... If I am running bags of death for stupid Lake E fish I'll use an 8... Just size it with your bait, if you are running big bags or skein like Dave mentioned, you need to upsize your hooks.... Also instead of just looping the hook through the top of the bag, I usually pull it through a bit and hook the tip through the side of the bag as well. Make's it as snagless as possible.
Garnet Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 I use Redwing Sabre hook, basically make the hook 1/2 the size of roe bag. I put a little exacter bend in the hook and when you do this you find out how tough this hook is. You won't bend these hooks removing them from fish. Garnet
kemper Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 I always used to use daiichi size 12s, but after a ton of pulled hooks two weekends ago (I went 1 for 7 on thursday and 2 for 9 on friday) I switched it up to a size 14 raven specialist and landed 90% last weekend. I find the raven hooks to be larger than most others...also from personal experience DO NOT use the raven sedge hooks, i found them completely useless and I broke two hooks on a 4 lb lead in one day.
DRIFTER_016 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 Being old school when I was back in TO I was running Eagle Claw style 42's in sizes 10, 12 and 14. When I started fishing in bigger flows out west I changed to Gami Octopus hooks in sizes 6 and 8 as I was continually straightening hooks with the old 42's even after stepping up to size 6's. I havent straightened a hook since. Out east you can get away with smaller hooks in the smaller tribs. Use something like a 14 for running single eggs.
centerpin_drift Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 i use purely Daiichi 1150 high carbon, size 12 shipped up from from a kentucky fly shop thats the only one that carries them anymore. i always use #12, even while floating a 8 inch worm down the river or roe bag or a single egg. any bigger hook, i feel ruins the natural presentation of a bait, depending on how many GPM the river is pushing. Oddly enough, i use bigger hooks like #10 B420 while floating or bouncing for specks, unless im fly fishing for specks, than i switch to #14, #16 dry fly. everyone's different, you'll find what works for you with time. cheers mike
KelfuN Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 hooks are a never ending topic... just stick with what you are comfortable/confident with, just make sure they are sharp...
silvio Posted April 1, 2009 Report Posted April 1, 2009 10's and 12's thats all I use. Pretty sure I am not haveing any problems
justin elia Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I typically run Raven Specialists. I use different sizes depending on the size of roe bag or artificial I'm using. Try to have sizes 8-14 in your box so you're well prepared. J Edited April 2, 2009 by justin elia
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) guy at the bait shop gave me 8's for roe bags! ( won't name the place) to fish for steelies of course! Edited April 2, 2009 by fishinFanatic69
BillM Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 guy at the bait shop gave me 8's for roe bags! ( won't name the place) to fish for steelies of course! If you are using big bags, 8's are fine....
rbaquial Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) So, what would you guys are the most commonly used sizes? 10, 12 & 14?? I'm gonna pickup some tomorrow. Edited April 2, 2009 by Addikted2Fishin'
BillM Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 I use 14's for pretty much everything... Pick up a few bags of each.. Unlike the Raven flouro, I haven't had any issues with their hooks..
rbaquial Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I use 14's for pretty much everything... Pick up a few bags of each.. Unlike the Raven flouro, I haven't had any issues with their hooks.. Do/Can you recommend a particular brand? Anyone else recommend BRAND and SIZE(s)? THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS/GALS! Edited April 2, 2009 by Addikted2Fishin'
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Gamakatsu Octopus Walleye/Steelhead Hook luorescent-colored octopus-style hooks are perfect for steelhead, trout and walleye rigs
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