camillj Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 heh .. I miss the splake .. they were great eating and the returns were there .. if not self sustaining...Id much rather see splake stocked than atlantics ... and that pink meat .... mmmmm mmmmmm goood ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLofchik Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Ah jeez not this crap again........... Okay, just assume there are NO Atlantics, because their survival in the lake is ABYSMAL. I know I know, you have a friends uncle who once caught an Atlantic.....good for you. Really. Can we just go a month of trout & salmonid fishing without somebody piping up "gee looks like an Atlantic"? Please? Because it's not. P.S. EVERY trout & salmon flake their scales off easy in the lake. Because they're growing. Fast. So they shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Ah jeez not this crap again........... Okay, just assume there are NO Atlantics, because their survival in the lake is ABYSMAL. I know I know, you have a friends uncle who once caught an Atlantic.....good for you. Really. Can we just go a month of trout & salmonid fishing without somebody piping up "gee looks like an Atlantic"? Please? Because it's not. P.S. EVERY trout & salmon flake their scales off easy in the lake. Because they're growing. Fast. So they shed. How about you take a pill?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 "Because it's not"...... Are you sure?..... I think Sinker has you and the fish pegged....lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Great catches FishinFool! Those fish certainly look like browns to me...As for the debate on whether to stock Atlantics VS steelhead/pacific salmon, I thought they were trying to reintroduce them since the 80's (at least in Wilmot creek) with little to show for it. I've also read that Atlantic salmon suffered from thiamine deficiencies when they feed mostly on a diet of smelt and alewife. Both smelt and alewife contain an enzyme which breaks down thiamine (vitamin B-1) which results in low reproductive success. Not sure what other baitfish there would be in Lake Ontario that Atlantics could eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemper Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 brownie nice fish guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 It only matters if you ate it Stan !!! Nice fishies no matter the breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinfool Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 It only matters if you ate it Stan !!! Nice fishies no matter the breed. I personally would not eat anything, any size out of Lake Ontario. All the fishies in question are still out there swimming and glowing. Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Atlanticish type looking fishy... Huh...3 spots on its gill plate....hmmm....white gums....hmmm.... Edited March 24, 2009 by gbfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 restoring a native species is hardly a waste of resources. thankfully these decisions aren't just made based on returns in terms of numbers or angling success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 "Because it's not"...... Are you sure?..... I think Sinker has you and the fish pegged....lmao Geeze.....I"m glad someone agrees I'd like to know the Key ID features that tell you that fish IS NOT an atlantic??? How can you be so sure?? Just curious..... ......please enlighten me. Sinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Geeze.....I"m glad someone agrees Im not sure that's a good thing Sinker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhare Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 restoring a native species is hardly a waste of resources.thankfully these decisions aren't just made based on returns in terms of numbers or angling success So what is the purpose then? If returns and angling success are no factor what so ever then why are OUR tax dollars going towards a program thats whole purpose is to bring back a fish that was unable and has been unable to sustain its self for decadeds.??? Sounds like a feelgood news story if you ask me, money could be much better spent cleaning up the lake or stocking more successful sport fish. Our stocking progam is dismal when compared to the US program. Thank god they spend money on more then just unsuccessful programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Im not sure that's a good thing Sinker.... But of course it is If the atlantics are going to fly, we gotta work on our streams first. They won't reproduce without the proper habitat. I think that's where most of the money is going.......before we can improve habitat, we gotta make sure we know exactly whats causing problems, and fix them from the roots. This takes time and money. Give it time......it MIGHT work. Sinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmls Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I gotta get down there and give that a wirl.... They must crush your lure, those BROWNIES Beauty fish fo sho .... I wish they stayed that pretty when they come in the rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 ah common.. .everyone knows that Atlantics smash lures/fight harder than browns.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I gotta get down there and give that a wirl.... They must crush your lure, those BROWNIES Beauty fish fo sho .... I wish they stayed that pretty when they come in the rivers Have you ever caught an atlantic? Ever had one in your hands? Ever released one into a trib around here? ............I thought so Never fished the nuke either huh.........hmmmmm........you know everything eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 shut this down before it goes crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) again, the reason I think this should be shut down. The pissing contest can go on and on and on so what's the piont when the poster stated that all the fish were let go to swim another day? Edited March 24, 2009 by GBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Rat Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Sinker , did you even look at the pics I posted ? I agree that the head has an atlantic kinda shape but the tell tale sign that that fish is a brown is the section of the tale ahead of the fin....fat brownie tail. Look at my pics, ALL Atlantics are long and slender in the wrist with a slight fork in the tail.....some other guy was able to count to three....(spots on the gill plate) and that makes it an atlantic?...... My fish were all stocked, clipped fresh water Atlantics......look again. I have many more pics if you actually need more proof. RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Nice fish. I am pretty sure the first one is a freshwater drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Sinker , did you even look at the pics I posted ? I agree that the head has an atlantic kinda shape but the tell tale sign that that fish is a brown is the section of the tale ahead of the fin....fat brownie tail. Look at my pics, ALL Atlantics are long and slender in the wrist with a slight fork in the tail.....some other guy was able to count to three....(spots on the gill plate) and that makes it an atlantic?...... My fish were all stocked, clipped fresh water Atlantics......look again. I have many more pics if you actually need more proof. RR Yep, I looked at your pics a couple times. I would agree that those are atlantics. Those are some large rivers your fishing there though, where abouts did you catch them? Lake O or tributaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 The experts have spoken Sinker....guess ya gotta give.. ... and stay on yer meds will ya!!!........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 The experts have spoken Sinker....guess ya gotta give.. ... and stay on yer meds will ya!!!........... I am no expert BUT the angler did say that all the fish went back so why let this go on? I swear it could have been a ____ but wasn't sure so I didn't post. It's ok, let it go the fish went on to fight another day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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