douG Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Deja vu like never before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I wonder how many carbon credits we as a group will need to buy, as a result of this topic coming up every week? HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Don't be shy Google is your friend. here's the court ruling 11 inacurasies of Gore's film You can also find more info here ABC news story TIME Fox news National Post Like I said Google is your friend, google Fun Facts Of Carbon Dioxide I'm done I can see that the movie was possibly made to be found inaccurate, to make the enviornmentalists look bad, so the Rich continue poluting and raking in the cash. I have seen the elites play both sides and know how they operate. BUT if you read my post and the points I have raised, they CANNOT be refuted in court. I also have tons of articles of Scientific proof that Global warming is happening. Would you really want to get into it? I also have articles that state that Exxon Mobile dishes out billions of dollars to pay other scientists to try to discredit their information using mis-information so they can continue to polute. But most of the professional UN scientists will tell you that the Earth's temperatures are on the rise and we are to blame. See???Doug and HH were applauding Deano and the thread when it supported their belief but when I discredited his mis-information, they now try to discredit the thread.lol Your not Republicans are you?LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) I really like inaccuracies number 9.Yes tell us again how in fact the ice covers are increasing. Oh and number 7 inaccuracies. I have seen scientific research stating that some corals will adapt but many will die. I am not sure if they have already died as a result but scientists were saying there was a good possibility....In the study 23% of 442 species adapted. Although there are over 93,000 species of corals. Still that is alot of dead coral. Edited October 16, 2007 by Johnny Bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybo Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Only if you tell me why it SNOWS? Edited October 16, 2007 by Tybo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Scientific article that states Antarctic ice shelf is in fact getting larger. http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Going back to TG's post..... Mr. Gore did a smart thing when he founded and chaired Generation Investment Management LLP based out of London in 2004 and founding and chairing the Alliance for Climate Protection. No matter if you believe in the cause of global warming or not you have to respect his direction. Not all facts in all documentries are true, take a look at most of Michael Moore’s stuff. Everybody tends to bend the info to reach their own goal. I found the documentry Manufacturing Dissent to be a great example of this. Gore is a very smart business man, and his award winning documentary was a great marketing tool to make him a very rich man. How convenient…. As for winning a Nobel prize for peace. Sure whatever, but I’m sure there are other people out there making just as much or more of a difference in the world than Al. Maybe Mr. Dallaire will win something one of these days for what he tried to do when nobody would listen, kind of doubt it though. Maybe the Dalai Lama should get another one? Anyway this is a fishing board, turn off your computers for a couple of weeks and stop using all this electricity for useless bickering and maybe Roy will be able to turn his off too. Lord knows if he turned his computer off for just a day the world would be a better place with all the carbon credits he would save. Maybe now I’ll go read about getting my balls snipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Scientific article that states Antarctic ice shelf is in fact getting larger. http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html Ummmmm. The article is speaking of sea ice..... Isn't that something like a slushie?.LOL So if the caps are melting it is obvious a larger area of sea ice will result. This has nothing to do with ice covering. Remember what I said about ice in a glass of water?It melts and expands the radius of cold water. So basically this story supports my position. Go read up on Sea Ice under Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_ice Edited October 16, 2007 by Johnny Bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Scientific article that states Antarctic ice shelf is in fact getting larger. http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html Weather will change. What is noteworthy are unique events such as the lowest Arctic ice coverage in history. http://www.physorg.com/news108986956.html There have been a few unique hurricane events also this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Don't be shy Google is your friend. here's the court ruling 11 inacurasies of Gore's film You quoted from www.worldnetdaily.com. "A Free Press For A Free People". Below is the headline news for today from worldnetdaily. I only wonder what link of that website brings you to pics of the scantily clad girls. Keep in mind that what you quoted directly from came from this "news" source and it is their interpretation of the news that you shared with us. WorldNetDaily Exclusive 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California Schwarzenegger signs law banning anything perceived as negative to 'gays' --WND WorldNetDaily Exclusive Mother accused of neglect for teaching own kids Describes litany of harassment, intimidation at public district --WND WorldNetDaily Exclusive Christian group apologizes for pro-life message 'We respect the separation educators need to have from the church world' --WND Teacher advocates 'sex play' among pre-schoolers Backed by child psychologists, doesn't want to stifle what comes naturally --Aftenposten, Norway Contraception proposed for 11-year-olds Officials say broad program 'totally needed' for middle schoolers --Portland Press Herald Edited October 16, 2007 by scuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I know, I got sucked in again, but this "What is noteworthy are unique events such as the lowest Arctic ice coverage in history." This is part of the problem, statements like this, especially the last six words in bold. When you read the article, it clearly states "The area covered by sea ice in the Arctic has shrunk to its lowest level this week since satellite measurements began nearly 30 years ago" 30 years is not quite the history of earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 So how about them leafs? Oh... might be another sore spot for some. Johnny Bass... let's go hug a tree man. Considering some of the other changes earth has gone through in millions of years before the last 100 years of industry by man, is it too much to think that this might be the start of another era for earth? Like I know we made the ice age happen and all the rest of whatever. I am not going to disagree that humans are playing a part in where the earth is headed, are we 100% responsible? Not a chance. The earth changes, we adapt. Humans are building more efficient everything these days, we are also changing to things that require less fossil fuels. Is all this going to save the earth? Who knows. Whatever is going to happen will happen. There is nothing we can do to reverse anything that is going on with the climate right now, it's going to change as it is doing. As for what I do or don't do Johnny Bass... who are you? I make appropriate comments... you put on a good argument, but you sound too much like Greenpeace or P3TA. Stop your crying and go do some fishing or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I know, I got sucked in again, but this "What is noteworthy are unique events such as the lowest Arctic ice coverage in history." This is part of the problem, statements like this, especially the last six words in bold. When you read the article, it clearly states "The area covered by sea ice in the Arctic has shrunk to its lowest level this week since satellite measurements began nearly 30 years ago" 30 years is not quite the history of earth. The last time there was no ice over the north pole was 50 million years ago. They are predicting that we will see water over the north pole in our life time. Scientists are simply stunned at the rate of decrease and have had to adjust their models many years forward. This is a unique and noteworthy event no matter what way you cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 So how about them leafs? Oh... might be another sore spot for some. Johnny Bass... let's go hug a tree man. Considering some of the other changes earth has gone through in millions of years before the last 100 years of industry by man, is it too much to think that this might be the start of another era for earth? Like I know we made the ice age happen and all the rest of whatever. I am not going to disagree that humans are playing a part in where the earth is headed, are we 100% responsible? Not a chance. The earth changes, we adapt. Humans are building more efficient everything these days, we are also changing to things that require less fossil fuels. Is all this going to save the earth? Who knows. Whatever is going to happen will happen. There is nothing we can do to reverse anything that is going on with the climate right now, it's going to change as it is doing. As for what I do or don't do Johnny Bass... who are you? I make appropriate comments... you put on a good argument, but you sound too much like Greenpeace or P3TA. Stop your crying and go do some fishing or something. I doubt we made the ice age happen. Is all this going to save the earth? YES! I believe there are things that can be done, but no action will take place until people realize that there is a problem. The poluters in the meantime will do and say anything to make you believe all is well when its not. They make too much money poluting. I personally think your comment was inappropriate and I am someone that likes this site and dont like to see posters discouraged or opinions bashed by name callers. Hey, I am passionate in what I believe in. And have a right to voice my opinion just like anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Thorpe Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 See what you started TG I think you need another pike vacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I doubt we made the ice age happen. Is all this going to save the earth? YES! I believe there are things that can be done, but no action will take place until people realize that there is a problem. The poluters in the meantime will do and say anything to make you believe all is well when its not. They make too much money poluting. I personally think your comment was inappropriate and I am someone that likes this site and dont like to see posters discouraged or opinions bashed by name callers. Hey, I am passionate in what I believe in. And have a right to voice my opinion just like anyone else. Passion is great... come to quinte in November and we can blabber while we fish. Arguments stop when the booze comes out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeGuy Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Marc, I just wanted to use the word "Gorgasm" in a sentence. I swear. I'm disappointed because nobody mentioned Gorgasm in a post. But I believe a few posters experienced one or two or a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyv Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Holy poop there is almost as much controversy in the posts above as tiller VS side console......for the record I prefer it warm, but then again most older people do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I don't care what anyone tells you...there called pickeral !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLIWOGG Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I was more impressed by Jimmy Carter trying to punch out some bad guys in Darfur. Way to go Jimmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Passion is great... come to quinte in November and we can blabber while we fish. Arguments stop when the booze comes out though. Unfortunately I am a fair weather fisherman. So fishing in November for me is unlikely. Maybe in the spring time. I'm a debater not an arguer, and I can control my beer and wine, but I stay away from hard liquer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 So....who's this Gorgasm guy? There ya go TG.... Oh yeah.....Tiller, photoshop and ummmm..... no OOS fish ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remo Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Maybe we should ask the Norwegians, Finns, Swedes and Eastern Americans & Canadians about the acid rain debate....that was suppose to be fear mongering aswell, and its real cause was suppose to be changes in land use that caused acidification. It was given nick name "The Great Acid Rain Flim Flam" by Dr. Krug and was a debated heavily for fifteen years before most governments would agree that it existed. Not to say that Al gore is on the money with this maybe he is or maybe he isn't. If he is wrong and manages to "fool" people into reducing emissions by saving energy etc....Oh well, at least there would be other environmental benefits that would come of it that I'm sure no one could deny. If he is right and doesn't mange to convince anyone well then that could be a pretty big problem. I say good on him, IMO its a good thing when the peace prize goes to an environmentalist. Just a note there are still alot of people who still contest the acid rain theory, and the first observations of acid rain went way back to the late 1800's. Just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 speaking of Al Gore.......If your a southpark fan check out the "manbearpig" episode if you haven't yet.....its hilarious..... Yes, beware Al Gore's deadly MANBEARPIG! On another note, how 'bout them Leafs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) ok now that I have commented on this post it is sure to be locked.... I have read all you're comments/thoughts/opinions (educated and not so much edumacated)... I think there are good points on either side of the fence... are we killing the planet? Yes to an extent.. we are raping mother earth of her resources... Are we the sole cause of everything that is wrong on the earth and her atmosphere? absolutely not! but to all you tree hugging pinko commie Al Gore following, baboons... do your part by clicking here... http://www.blackle.com/ copy and paste your rhetoric to your hearts content... knowing you're ACTUALLY helping the plant in return.. Insert David Suzuki / Green Peace Lovers here....... Now.. you've done your part for mother nature... sleep well tonight... and this weekend when you start up your pick-up to tow your boat know that you have "off-set" something-or-friggen-other.... sorry guys but this thread is asinine.. and there is/will be no clear winner.. as everyone has their "opinion" regardless of how distorted is may be.. ok this thread can be locked now LOL Gerritt. Edited October 18, 2007 by Gerritt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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