It's the type of job that dictates if it's cheaper to bring guys in to help. If we get a now rare busy stretch, I can't bring in machinists and mold makers to help out. Regardless of how good they are, there is always an extended training period. They're working at 25% of their potential, mistakes are made and your "go to guys" are getting help up by them. The up side is sometimes you can find a gem but that doesnt solve the short term crisis. When you add all this up plus hiring costs and benefits, overtime is cheap...in the short term.