My two sons 27 and 23 are doing well. One is a fitness trainer and works for Microsoft,the other just finished 4th year Humber and heading to U of T for two years. .Wants to run a multi million $ company. Both my kids always helped me whenever I needed it,and now being in the city offer to come up and help me on their own dime. My boys are alright,lot of bad ones,and whenever they come up,they will not take a cent for helping me.You still as said can"t paint all kids with the same brush. But I do see Cliff,some won"t do anything.Kinda sad.I would of been all over that in my time .