bill m. the kids nowadays need college at least and the testing system for application in any big 3 manufacturing co. is tuff. long long gone are the days of grade 8 and working in auto factories...there was a time emploers stated your over educated for the work. now-adays young folks struggle WITH education to get wal-mart type jobs.. if our leaders accepted canadiens are smart folks ,willing to build Canada,maybe they could protect our economy. Not give it away to offshore businesses.