thanks craig !! very interesting,and i do miss my 14ft smoker tinny for sure,it was bullett proof,many rough water adventures,including lake ontario,about 100 times,and never a leak,a buckle nothing i had it for 7yrs,and loved it!! nice to see where they are made as well,i would not ever hesitate to buy one again,i own a lund now,but if i could have got a smoker in the same style i would have got it for sure....