akaShag Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 As some of you may recall, I am technologically challenged. I just got this email, and understand the words, and the desire to sell me stuff, but DO I NEED IT? THE ONE-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION WILL EXPIRE IN A WEEK ON: US & CANADA US_CAD We make up to 5,000 updates every day Click the button below to order a new card1 at up to 50% less than an original chart purchase. Be sure you log in your account to access the discounted price. With your replacement card, you can continue accessing the very latest content and advanced features: Dock-to-dock Route Guidance technology2 Advanced Map Options Plotter Sync PROCEED 1If you replace your old card with a new card, your old card can no longer be updated 2Dock-to-dock Route Guidance is for planning purposes only and does not replace safe navigation operations NOTE: After your subscription expires, it is possible to renew your subscription by using your existing card through the Navionics Chart Installer. Please do not reply to this message. Replies will be sent to an uncontrolled mailbox. Copyright © 2023 Garmin Italy Technologies. All rights reserved. Garmin Italy Technologies S.r.l. a socio unico, Via Fondacci 269, Z.I. Montramito Massarosa (LU), IT 55054 Italy  End of their email message. CAN I CONTINUE TO ACCESS NAVIONICS WITHOUT BUYING A NEW CARD? It is in a Helix 7, if that matters. Thanks for helping out an old fart. Doug
Terry Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 Yes, you did not need the updates if you don’t want them and you can still use the card for all functions you already have however you may want to see if there are any free updates that are av today and update it if there are 1 1
KraTToR Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 Not a "Young gun" but Terry is correct. Your card will still work as it always has, you'll miss out on any updates going forward. I usually renew every 3-4 years but lets face it, the bathymetry really doesn't change that much  1
Terry Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 Im well over 65 myself, but still consider myself a young gun  lol 1 1
CrowMan Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 Agree with the above...but just learned something...Navionics is based in Italy. Who knew. 1
akaShag Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Posted June 13, 2023 Thanks guys! The idea of having to do a bunch of buttonology just before bass season filled me with dread. So I will stay with what I have. And unless somebody moves the shoals, I am OK. Doug
BillM Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 Hydrocharts don't change all that much. If you've got current updates you're good. 1 1
akaShag Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, BillM said: If you've got current updates you're good. How would I know? Do they update automatically? Thanks for the advice! Doug
BillM Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) No, you'd plug your card into your laptop, the Navionics app would pop up and it would tell you to update them. Do that before your subscription is over. Edited June 13, 2023 by BillM 1
akaShag Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillM said: No, you'd plug your card into your laptop, the Navionics app would pop up and it would tell you to update them. Do that before your subscription is over. Many thanks! IIRC it was you who showed me (with a photo on here) how to find the teeny little slot where the card fits. I am going to look for that right soon! Doug 1
akaShag Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Posted June 13, 2023 OK, we have success! With the aid of a set of "cheaters" (I don't wear glasses), and a bright flashlight and a set of needle nose pliers I was able to get the micro mini teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini SD card out of the clever hiding place and got it updated. Hallelujah! Hopefully I can also put it back. Thanks for all the helpful advice! I think I need to hire one of you folks for a morning to teach me how to use my Helix..........🙄 Doug 1
CrowMan Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 I think I need to hire one of you folks for a morning to teach me how to use my Helix..........🙄   Hey Doug....next time we're out, I'll do a little more show & tell. We were probably too busy with the Crappies and yakking about everything else to spend any time in class.. Just remember, keep pressing "VIEW" until you see the screen the way you like it...😉 1
akaShag Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, CrowMan said: next time we're out, I'll do a little more show & tell. SOLD!!! I got to thinking (which is a dangerous activity for a man like me), and I realize that I spend very little of my time at the stern of the boat where I have the graph, and rather spend most time on the bow casting platform with the bow-mount electric. I already knew why guys have two (or more) graphs, but did not really want to have something else up front in the way. So I do not actually spend much time looking at the graph and learning how it works. The last time I REALLY understand my graphs, it was a Lowrance X-16 (paper) in the boat, and a Lowrance Z-6000P portable everywhere else. I really did understand them. But I also wore a younger man's clothes.............and my head wasn't full of all the KNOWLEDGE from the last 30 or 40 years. 🙄 Doug 2 1
CrowMan Posted June 13, 2023 Report Posted June 13, 2023 That explains a lot...even though you were sitting on the bow casting platform, you didn't want to turn on the Helix I have mounted up front...but if you're catching fish...who cares...lol 1
dave524 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Posted June 14, 2023 11 hours ago, BillM said: Hydrocharts don't change all that much. If you've got current updates you're good. Bet you would be surprised how old most of the data is 1
akaShag Posted June 14, 2023 Author Report Posted June 14, 2023 10 hours ago, dave524 said: Bet you would be surprised how old most of the data is When I used to use paper charts, literally all over the province as far north as Temagami, the data was often from decades earlier. I am guessing that some of that data has never been updated, due to the work involved. Doug
BillM Posted June 14, 2023 Report Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, dave524 said: Bet you would be surprised how old most of the data is Not surprised at all, where do you think they got the data from? The original hydro charts, lol!   Any spots I fish with any frequency I just turn on Autochart Live and make my own maps anyhow.  Edited June 14, 2023 by BillM 3
Dan668 Posted June 16, 2023 Report Posted June 16, 2023 Charts don't change much, but for Lowrance users, you lose the advanced map options which is helpful for highlighting a single range and shallow water. Sucks to renew yearly. Might try C Maps although from looking at there viewer online, Navionics seems to superior.
BillM Posted June 16, 2023 Report Posted June 16, 2023 Buddy of mine just upgraded to C-maps for the ability to highlight certain depths etc.  You'd think a feature like that would be standard... Yikes.
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