pike slayer Posted July 24, 2016 Report Posted July 24, 2016 I just picked up a brand new 3.5hp mercury and it's a beauty little motor. I currently have a friends 12' that he never uses(wife is against fishing lol poor guy) but I want a boat to call my own. I see Jon boats are very cheap brand new and I like the idea of a flat bottom but I read they are horrible in chop. I fish only inland lakes in the sault area and probably the biggest lake I'll fish is wakami. Are Jons fine if I get into a bit of wind? Or just get a vhull? If I go the vhull route I want a light weight one I can use as a "car topper" and for a decent price. What are your recommendations
Old Ironmaker Posted July 24, 2016 Report Posted July 24, 2016 I decided to buy a deep V boat after renting a 14" Jon boat with a 9.9 on it 9 years ago. I was fishing an inland lake in upper NY state solo. Hardly and wind and zero chop. I came around a bend and a gust of wind nearly flipped the boat over. Water started coming over the transom. I turned it around and went to the shore to load some rocks into it and drain the boat. I paid for 3 days and it sat there for 2, I swore never again. I know there are many people that have and enjoy flat bottom boats, not this guy ever again.
ecmilley Posted July 24, 2016 Report Posted July 24, 2016 A cartopper 12fter not much better in the rough than a flatbottom style jon boat. If your getting a deal on it go for the jon boat. All about the balance distribute load equally youll be fine
mike rousseau Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 With a 3.5hp I really can't see it making much difference... Not like your hitting waves at 30mph
pike slayer Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Posted July 25, 2016 That's kinda what I was thinking. If anything won't I be able to go faster since it'll glade on top of the water inside of cut through the water?
GBW Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 That's kinda what I was thinking. If anything won't I be able to go faster since it'll glade on top of the water inside of cut through the water? as others posted, load balance and keeping it stable either way. Never fished from a jon type boat and don't care to as I want stable either way. I just know I can take a V and throw a sheet of plywood in it for a flat floor and feel more at ease when at speed with something cutting into the water vs skipping on top.
bare foot wader Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 are you a bigger guy? I'd probably take a car topper vhull over a jon boat myself, but I'm just not a fan of narrow jon boats, ie the 1032 most common size....if you're buying new then check out lowe, they make a 1040, widest I'm aware of on the market, fished out of one earlier this year and was noticeably more stable and comfortable than my 1032 which I didn't keep very long
Korber Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 I agree with Old Ironmaker, buy your self a nice deep V hull. There is a lot of upsides and very few down sides, in fact the only thing that I can think of for benefit of the jon boat over a deep V would be the ability to go in extremely shallow water. But once you factor a motor in it starts to become less of an advantage as the motor will be the common bottom hitter. I had my deep V out on Erie this weekend and trolled the mudline. 2 guys ( 175 lbs and 210lbs) plus my 25 Evinrude and 50lbs Minn kota plus gear. The boat held up quite well but the chop was minimal. I wouldn't venture too far out but it was nice that I could get out on Erie with my 14' Tinny.
Joeytier Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 With a 3.5hp I really can't see it making much difference... Not like your hitting waves at 30mph Yep. You won't be able to fish in anything other than almost completely calm waters anyway, so get whatever you like or is the best deal.
Ralph Field Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 I found a 12 foot Jon Boat a pain to stand and cast from. I would choose the 12 ft. car topper any day.
Dabluz Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 I just sold my 14 foot Espadon Cartopper. Yes, it was a good 48 inches wide and exactly 14 feet long. Maximum size motor was 10 h.p. and it ran a good 30 km/h with only me and a bit of equipment. I used it for about 6 years and it was great. However, too small for more than 2 fishermen and their equipment. Difficult to stand up in but 2 guys could carry it a pretty good distance. Not recommended when the waves have white caps. Since I already have a 14 foot Sportspal canoe, I decided to buy a larger wider aluminum boat. Now I have a 15 foot Princecraft Resorter and 30 h.p. motor. Big difference in comfort , interior space and ability to navigate when the waves have white caps. Lots less rocking motion too.
lookinforwalleye Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 I just bought a Alumacraft Jon it has a 70" beam and is 48 at the base and is plenty stable...I looked at those skinny Basspro Jons and passed I figured I would be falling out of the stupid thing too often...
boombap Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 I had a older 14ft semi v aluminum and in any chop/wind it was a pita... Got myself a deepv 16.5 and will never go back to anything else. Unless its a nice ranger
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