NFL, CFL, anything Football thread

[Old Ironmaker]

Put the money on your family. You can not win anything betting. I have never been a big gambler but I know plenty that were and eventually lose it all, every penny. I'm talking 100K bets on a Sunday. M2B2, you say you went 3 for 5, not bad but, and a big but you risked money on 5 bets to be up by 1 only. I said I won't but I know I'll get another slip next Sunday. There goes another 10er.

[manitoubass2]

Put the money on your family. You can not win anything betting. I have never been a big gambler but I know plenty that were and eventually lose it all, every penny. I'm talking 100K bets on a Sunday. M2B2, you say you went 3 for 5, not bad but, and a big but you risked money on 5 bets to be up by 1 only. I said I won't but I know I'll get another slip next Sunday. There goes another 10er.

I spend 10 bucks a week OI and im up about 8 grand over the last 6 years lol.

 

Im not a betting man(casinos etc)

 

I just play my ticket each week and i quit around the 7th or 8th week when injuries begin and teams develope and it becomes to hard to pick easy winners.

 

This year ill admit i didnt study like i normally do so i might not bet at all, well see.

 

I usually study about a month out and honestly, if you dont get an ego bet, its easy money

[Mister G]

So much for my NFL betting 2015. Out 10 bucks and done.

 

I am watching the Philly/Atlanta Mon night game. I was a bit surprised when Buffalo traded Kiko Alonzo to Philly for McCoy. He just made a one handed int in the end zone. This kid is great. Watch for him. He has to stay healthy.

Kiko is good but not great. He has the body of a strong safety and the speed of a middle linebacker. He's too light to stuff the run between the tackles. If you really watch him he does make a lot of tackles but they are always 5 yards down field. He's no Shane Conlan that's for sure.

 

Buffalo made a great trade to get McCoy who is one of the top three running backs in the NFL. Good middle linebackers are a dime a dozen in this league.

 

Chip Kelly will now sit and watch his system blow up in his face while the T-REX takes the Bills into the playoff for the first time in 15 years.

[Steve]

My wife and I are part of a group of 6 TiCat season ticket holders.

 

I love going to CFL games.

 

I haven't watched an NFL game in a decade...likely even longer.

 

Just picked up 7 tickets to the Hamilton Bulldogs OHL home opener against the Generals.

 

Love supporting Hamilton Teams!

[Old Ironmaker]

Kiko Alonso has a body fat of less than 4%. He is almost 6'5". He doesn't look like your typical NFL inside LB. Yes he looks like a big safety. His tenacity can not be coached or learned. He made that ridiculous 1 handed interception last night to prove my point. I like the guy and I agree he is no Connlon or Jim Hasslet, yet.

 

edit: allowing 150 rushing yards to 1 back doesn't help my argument though.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Old Ironmaker

[Mister G]

Kiko Alonso has a body fat of less than 4%. He is almost 6'5". He doesn't look like your typical NFL inside LB. Yes he looks like a big safety. His tenacity can not be coached or learned. He made that ridiculous 1 handed interception last night to prove my point. I like the guy and I agree he is no Connlon or Jim Hasslet, yet.

 

edit: allowing 150 rushing yards to 1 back doesn't help my argument though.

Kiko is 6' 3" and goes 238 which is light for a middle linebacker. All the good running backs carry him 2-4 yards down field. Chip Kelly was interested in him because he is also a former Duck and because Kelly and McCoy didn't see eye to eye.

 

Most non NFL linemen have less then 4% body fat, nothing special there. And yes that was a nice interception he made last night.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like Kiko but don't think he's on his way to the hall of fame. Seems to have a level head, good work ethic and a gentleman to boot. But I think Buffalo got the better end of that deal......however, it was a win win for both teams.

[Old Ironmaker]

I hope Buffalo gets the better deal as well. I just like the guy right off the get go when I watched him in Oregon.

 

Is this Peyton Manning's last year. All the talking heads say he has a mechanical problem with his throwing. He must love playing or he owes, he owes so off to work he goes.

 

By the way G, I have never seen a linemen with 4% body fat. If there is one I would like to know who, I'm sure I'll find out soon. 4% is 6 pack ripped.

[lookinforwalleye]

My wife and I are part of a group of 6 TiCat season ticket holders.

 

I love going to CFL games.

 

I haven't watched an NFL game in a decade...likely even longer.

 

Just picked up 7 tickets to the Hamilton Bulldogs OHL home opener against the Generals.

 

Love supporting Hamilton Teams!

Hamilton has a OHL team again eh...wonder how long this one will last....

[Old Ironmaker]

I just Googled the lineman question. There are some startling stats out there for NFL linemen as far as their risk to health based on their weight and career choice. The average linemen are between 21% and 24% body fat. The lowest being 16% and highest being 30%. Several studies showed basically the same numbers, 1 out of the U of Ohio and stats from the 07' NFL combines for example. Your average "skill position player is 12% body fat. BMI is not a good denominator as some may have dense muscle vs. height that skew the numbers .

 

4% is ripped. There are no linemen with 4% body fat, so there. Wait, maybe in high school because they are short linemen. I'm chuckling Mister B not being snarky, all good sir.

[Mister G]

I just Googled the lineman question. There are some startling stats out there for NFL linemen as far as their risk to health based on their weight and career choice. The average linemen are between 21% and 24% body fat. The lowest being 16% and highest being 30%. Several studies showed basically the same numbers, 1 out of the U of Ohio and stats from the 07' NFL combines for example. Your average "skill position player is 12% body fat. BMI is not a good denominator as some may have dense muscle vs. height that skew the numbers .

 

4% is ripped. There are no linemen with 4% body fat, so there. Wait, maybe in high school because they are short linemen. I'm chuckling Mister B not being snarky, all good sir.

There may not be any linemen NOW but there was..............

 

Every hear of BRUCE SMITH........I remember reading about him having a 4% body fat body that KILLED QB's Weekly......... 200 sacks in his career says it all.

 

When they try to compare Mario Williams with Bruce Smith I just laugh. Bruce was UNBELIEVABLE.....Williams only plays the QB for a sack.....just watch him...he does not play the run..this drives me CRAZY......Bruce was not only the BEST defensive end to sack the QB but was also excellent against the run. He was so quick that many times he caught the running back from the back side when they ran away from him. Boy do I miss watching him.

 

BTW I said "non linemen" meaning excluding linemen.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Mister G

[Mister G]

I almost forgot the Peyton Manning question..........

 

He's 39 year old I believe and he's been thru the wringer a few times and has thousands of miles on that right arm. With all that said, I still believe he's the greatest QB to ever play QB. He hasn't had the best teams surrounding him like Brady or Rodgers but somehow always finds a way to win. I'm sure there are 20 teams right now that would love to have him as their starting QB, Buffalo included.

 

I don't know if this is his last year, I hope not because I do enjoy watching him. He'll probably get Denver in the playoffs again this year, but without him they don't make it.

 

I remember when fans in Buffalo want Kelly to retire (1-3 years too early) and he did........how's that worked out for them.

 

Watch out what you wish for.

 

As far as Manning need the money, I HIGHLY doubt it. He's a smart man and I'm sure he's a very rich man with many investments increasing his wealth. I think he just loves the game too much to hang up the cleats. And when he does how long do you think he will be out of the game before someone makes him a head coach.

 

BTW my first granddaughter is named Peyton and she's the cutest thing out there.....and her dad played college football. . . . .

[Old Ironmaker]

Bruce Smith. We went to his first exhibition game at Rich Stadium after being picked 1st by Buffalo. After his first series we turned to each other and said "WOW". He did a 360 outside move then 180 and ran down Chuck Dickerson from behind. He outran Dickerson. The rest is history. I had a few Molson's at a charity golf tourney in The Falls along with Kelly and a few others a few years back when I had 7% body fat, yes he had 4% body fat. I stand corrected. I wish he retired a Bill, one of the worse free agency signings by Washington, ever. Kelly could have played much longer but his son Hunter was much more important than Football and I respect that immensely.

 

I just don't know why Manning would risk being in a wheelchair when he could have retired on top. Special people to extraordinary things. He is one of them.

[manitoubass2]

4% bodyfat lol

[Old Ironmaker]

You know 4% body fat M2B2. I had veins in my abs. Sick when I think about drinking white vinegar to look good. A long time ago.

[manitoubass2]

Most athletes never acheive 4% (and when they do its for a very short term and usually assisted)

 

When DEXA came along it changed everything for bodyfat measurements.

 

Only athletes i can think of that perform near that level of bodyfat are long distance runners, swimmers and the like.

 

Nobody in the nfl could perform at the highest level at 4% bodyfat and thats a fact.

 

6% is about as low as it goes, and when your between 240-320lbs thats a massive difference.

 

And why would you drink vinegar to get leaner? That makes zero sense at all brother?

 

Winstrol, trenbolone acetate and clenbuterol, oh and some ephedrine/caffeine and maybe even DNP and you can reach that level of bf, but your sure as heck aint playing an nfl game like that!

[manitoubass2]

And yes I think manning is done.

 

You could even see it last year.

 

One of the best to ever do it thats for sure.

 

Question is, when does he start coaching? The man is brilliant when it comes to football

[davew3]

GO CATS GO !!! Grey Cup again ? win this year ?

[tb4me]

OSKI Wee Wee Cats are my team..Its just lovely watching them stomp the NOTs in double Blue.. I honestly think were cup bound again , just have to win it this time...

[Old Ironmaker]

I'm really enjoying watching the Cats play this year actually since they actually have a real deal coach to lead them, Fun to watch after all those years of mediocre play. It's really extra fun beating TO. I hope an east final has them there too. A far as the Cup, let's get there first.

[Steve]

Hamilton has a OHL team again eh...wonder how long this one will last....

 

Well, now that they aren't the farm team of Montreal, they will get support, lol.

 

Not many fans of the toilet seats here in Hammertown

[Old Ironmaker]

Steve, what's the reference to the toilet seats? Montreal? I haven't followed the NHL since the 80's.

[Mister G]

Steve, what's the reference to the toilet seats? Montreal? I haven't followed the NHL since the 80's.

HEY, this is a football thread........take that somewhere else........LOL

[Mister G]

OK, maybe we have enough interest in this NFL stuff here........maybe

 

So let's play just for fun a survivor pick game here for ANYONE who wants to get in on this. BRAGGING RIGHTS ONLY......TRASH TALK ENCOURAGED........

 

Rules are you pick ONE team per week to WIN and if it does your still in the game. If your pick loses your OUT for the rest of the year. Once you pick a team you can never pick that team again for this year. So if you picked Buffalo to win last week your still in the game but you can NOT use Buffalo again.......so we will give everyone who wants to play a bye last week, meaning yes you can still pick ANYONE this week. Picks MUST be in before 1pm Sunday if it's a Sunday game. If there is a Thursday or Monday game it must be in prior to that game's kickoff.

 

Here's my pick this week........SAINTS (if they lose I am out, if they win I pick again next week but can't use Saints again)

Edited September 17, 2015 by Mister G

[manitoubass2]

I take Baltimore ravens

[Old Ironmaker]

We called it "Cut Throat". I'm in. Now I need to use my brain and rabbits foot and pick a dog game of which as of late there are no easy picks. I'll be back.