SirCranksalot Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I use reading glasses already. It's not just a vision problem. I use pliers because, when I grip them between my big thumb and forefinger, the lead is in such an awkward position that I can't get the line in the tiny slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I use my teeth.. I'm sure I'll keel over one day in the river due to lead poisoning, but it works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Ivan Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) I got one of these - - about 20 years ago. It's a fantastic little tool, and I can re-use my shot at least 3 or 4 times. Warning - happy music during the video. Edited October 5, 2012 by Crazy Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuzza Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I've made the move to non-toxic this year which seems to be designed to be moved, just push a thumb nail into the slot and they open as long as you don't clamp them on with pliers. I get mine on trips to the UK where the only shot you can buy is non-toxic apart from size 10 and down - not as cheap as lead but being easier to re-use makes up most of the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strakey Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Hi there u can go online to centerpinangling.com and order them along with specialized pliers for removal of said shot. Toronto based company but shipping is 8 bucks minimun so make it an order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I use my teeth.. I'm sure I'll keel over one day in the river due to lead poisoning, but it works great Ugh, same here......and its really been on my mind the last couple years. Im going to try and make a concerted effort this year to try and stop. Its certainly the most productive way to get it done......its not going to be easy trying to mess around with hemo's and tinh shot with numb fingers all winter that for sure Ive got some inventions kicking around in my head for a fix but havent gotten around to prototyping any of them just yet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ugh, same here......and its really been on my mind the last couple years. Im going to try and make a concerted effort this year to try and stop. Its certainly the most productive way to get it done......its not going to be easy trying to mess around with hemo's and tinh shot with numb fingers all winter that for sure Ive got some inventions kicking around in my head for a fix but havent gotten around to prototyping any of them just yet lol There is a lot of residue in the Blackbird shot, rinsing them off then putting them back into the containers would most likely help quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 time for some questions from a noob... is there really a significant difference in numbers of fish caught on winged vs non winged shot? are steelhead really that fussy? how much does winged shot effect the way your bait drifts? same size weights from top to bottom? i need to get dialed in. 4 outings with zero fish sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Wingless BB size are $3.49 for 150 at BPS if you're the area. Are they lead or non lead?,what would you recommend if they have both?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) i need to get dialed in. 4 outings with zero fish sucks Me too, great question but have to increase my odds by listening to proven veterans. . Edited October 5, 2012 by davey buoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Your shot pattern all depends on the river you are fishing. For the most part it's bigger to smaller (Unless you're fishing fast flows and you want to bulk shot right about your leader)... Steelhead aren't fussy, biggest mistake I see new guys make (And I did when I started) was running their rigs way too shallow and using far to big a float and too much weight.. All you're doing with a rig like that is smashing your roebag/bead whatever into the bottom and dragging it around.. That's not a very natural presentation.. I like to run a longer leader then most 36in+ with a 4-5gr float in slower flows... and if I need a few dust shot on it, then so be it.. If you aren't getting bit on your first 6 drifts, change something.. Making the same drift over and over again without changing up if you aren't getting bit is silly. Edited October 5, 2012 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Your shot pattern all depends on the river you are fishing. For the most part it's bigger to smaller (Unless you're fishing fast flows and you want to bulk shot right about your leader)... Steelhead aren't fussy, biggest mistake I see new guys make (And I did when I started) was running their rigs way too shallow and using far to big a float and too much weight.. All you're doing with a rig like that is smashing your roebag/bead whatever into the bottom and dragging it around.. That's not a very natural presentation.. I like to run a longer leader then most 36in+ with a 4-5gr float in slower flows... and if I need a few dust shot on it, then so be it.. If you aren't getting bit on your first 6 drifts, change something.. Making the same drift over and over again without changing up if you aren't getting bit is silly. thanks for the tips. it's hard learning the game when i don't have anyone to physically show me prime water and proper technique to fish it. therefore, i could be making critical errors without even knowing. on the other hand i could be using the right techniques, but applying them to the wrong water or i could just be fishing at bad times. as with any other fishing, i know that changing thing's up to find what's working is important. the problem here is nothing has been working for me so far and the only success i've had is honing my casting skills around the lumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 You definitely wanna drift in tight to the wood Sometimes 6-7inches will make all the difference between getting bit or going home with a skunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) You definitely wanna drift in tight to the wood Sometimes 6-7inches will make all the difference between getting bit or going home with a skunk. Yep. I love the wood now,even if it means retieing at times. Edited October 7, 2012 by Misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super dave Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 They're not meant to come off Dave, once expired slide them together and tuck them in a pocket for proper disposal. I do the same except go one step further. When I get home, I'll take a pocket knife and pry open the shot for reuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted October 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I do the same except go one step further. When I get home, I'll take a pocket knife and pry open the shot for reuse. That's the way to do it,no waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 That's the way to do it,no waste! I do the same for medium size shots but I find that my big fingers won't let me do that to the smaller ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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