Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Went out on the river tonight after 2 weeks of practising casting in the backyard. Thought I was doing well for until a fish hit , and another , and another and ended up having my fly taken under atleast 7 times. didnt get one fish on. so my question is, when a fish takes the fly under what do i do ? Set the hook ? new to this so any tips would be great help
BillM Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Yup, setting the hook might help. Although with a flyrod it's not like you've gotta drive the hook into their brains. Just lift up on the rod and you should be good. Edited May 30, 2012 by BillM
monsterfish Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Sharpen your hooks! Always sharpen your Hooks!
timmeh Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Also may have been chubs. Sometimes they hit flies but aren't big enough to actually eat them.
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 that could have been what it was, because they were surely not big
The JAY Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 If you were fishing in the Grand, they were probably Mooneye. They hit fast and spit just as quick....
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah i was on the grand but i think it was the chubs like timmeh said because they weren't very large, although i have no idea how big mooneye get
Christopheraaron Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Wait a few days until the weather cools, the rivers will as well and the trout will become more active. As for setting the hook, just like bill said, just lift the rod tip and be ready for a fight!
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 Im on the lower grand, so there isnt any active trout. I was just practising for whatever bites
Christopheraaron Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Oh, ok. There are supposed to be a lot of silver bass in there right now, maybe you should tie up some small clouser minnows and try for them?
misfish Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Also may have been chubs. Sometimes they hit flies but aren't big enough to actually eat them. LOL I was chubb fly fishing on the weekend.LOL Yes the chubb will hit the fly. I was surprised at some. They would hit as soon as the fly hit the water. Very aggrasive.
aplumma Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 I found a piece of red yarn and a flock of chicken an excellent way to sharpen your skills in the back yard. Art
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 going to go again tonight, an see if i can pull one out so i can identify whats been hitting so much
Christopheraaron Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Chub, even small ones like small (up to size 8) flies, try a small beadhead wooly bugger and I guarantee you'll catch one.
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 haha alright I will try that out tonight! I'll letcha know how I do.
solopaddler Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Based on your description you were fishing dry flies and susequently had fish strike and take your fly under? Many many times fish simply prefer to eat flies sub surface, whether it's because they're keying on emergers or for some other unfathomable reason. Sometimes what appears to be a strike is often the fish slapping at the fly with it's tail or possibly nudging it with its snout to submerge it where they can suck it in at their leisure. In such instances the obvious answer is use a sub surface fly, usually a nymph of some type. Alternatively when your dry fly disappears in a showy splash count to three then slowly raise the rod and set the hook. You need to give them a bit more time to eat your fly when they're doing this. The ultimate example of this for me occurred many years ago when fly fishing for whitefish. I missed over a dozen spectacular hits before it dawned on me what was happening. The whitefish were indeed keying on the mayflies on the surface. But because of their underslung mouth were coming up and submerging the fly with their noses, then sucking them in underwater. After I figured that out I had to force myself to wait before the lifting the rod...a very hard thing to do...but it worked. I started hooking fish hand over fist.
dave524 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Alternatively when your dry fly disappears in a showy splash count to three then slowly raise the rod and set the hook. You need to give them a bit more time to eat your fly when they're doing this. The ultimate example of this for me occurred many years ago when fly fishing for whitefish. I missed over a dozen spectacular hits before it dawned on me what was happening. The whitefish were indeed keying on the mayflies on the surface. But because of their underslung mouth were coming up and submerging the fly with their noses, then sucking them in underwater. After I figured that out I had to force myself to wait before the lifting the rod...a very hard thing to do...but it worked. I started hooking fish hand over fist. Same here, especially when I was younger and reflexes were faster, would set the hook when the fish broke surface and pull the fly away from it, my solution was to foucus on the nail knot joining the leader to the fly line and only strike after it moved .
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 Yes thats what happened, and I had no idea what to do because I have been focusing so much on casting I forgot about the other basics haha.
Live2fish85 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 I can almost garuntee that if you are fishing abobe the dunnville dam towards york and caledonia that it is mooneye that are taking the flies. I have been down a few times and some gentlemen that were fly fishing were catching tons of them, said they go down there often as his brother was just learning.
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 Guess theres only one way to find out and that is to catch one ! Haha
Christopheraaron Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 It may be easier to take spinning gear and drift some worms. Almost all fish take worms and you will have a better chance catching it on spinning gear.
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah but I am trying to figure out fly fishing and catch my first fish on a fly rod. On spinning gear I have a secret spot for walleye which I wouldn't be able to resist going to
misfish Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah but I am trying to figure out fly fishing and catch my first fish on a fly rod Some like to do it the easy way Shasta Good on ya for sticking to the fly. Im a newbi as well. It,s a blast. Rewarding when you can get something on a fly.
Broker Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Posted May 30, 2012 Some like to do it the easy way Shasta Good on ya for sticking to the fly. Im a newbi as well. It,s a blast. Rewarding when you can get something on a fly. I saw your first fly catch, she's a beauty! don't think mine will be as pretty..
Christopheraaron Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 You take that back! I was suggesting that he use worms to figure out what was biting!
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