mike rousseau Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 im gunna try dead bait on my tip up for pike this weekend and i was wondering if anybody had tips/advice for me... im probably gunna be fishing 20-30 feet of water... clear water... so how deep do i set the dead bait at? what kinda rig works best? the baits are big suckers left over from fall musky fishing... i froze them in water with salt added... they are 8-12 inches in length... thanks for any info you can spare... after icing 2 pike my last time out im starting to get confidence in tip ups...
Gerritt Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) For dead suckers, I would honestly suggest a Windlass to help give the bait a bit of movement making it appear more alive... Rigged quick strike my 0.2 cents worth. G. Edited January 6, 2012 by Gerritt
Raf Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 windlass, quick strike, set it up inches off the bottom, drive a railroad spike through the dead bait (frozen bait will tend to wanna float).
mike rousseau Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Posted January 6, 2012 For dead suckers, I would honestly suggest a Windlass to help give the bait a bit of movement making it appear more alive... Rigged quick strike my 0.2 cents worth. G. thats what i was thinking... i have a windlass tip-up rigged with a 2 treble quick strike one treble behind the head and the other behind the dorsal
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 I either use a quick strike rig on a tipup or on a dead stick rod in a holder. Every 1/2 hour or so I will go and do a gentle lift and fall with the bait. This gets any lookers to commit. I don't use the windlas tipups because they just don't work up here in the middle of the winter. The holes are iced over 1/4" thick at the 1/2 hour intervals I check so they freeze into the ice in minutes. I use the old school wooden traps but even these don't work great up here in the dead of winter. After landing a fish I have to pull off about 30' of line off the spool to free it up. The line is a block of ice by the time I have caught/released and rebaited. I find the dead stick in a holder works better at this time of year (less work anyway) This is my preferred set up.
Raf Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 thats what i was thinking... i have a windlass tip-up rigged with a 2 treble quick strike one treble behind the head and the other behind the dorsal i am just playing devil's advocate (because that's the rig i use too) but, some will say a CO *MAY* hassle you for 2 trebles... in a bait situation, each point counts as a hook and thus you are over the limit on hooks.
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 i am just playing devil's advocate (because that's the rig i use too) but, some will say a CO *MAY* hassle you for 2 trebles... in a bait situation, each point counts as a hook and thus you are over the limit on hooks. Not if you put a spinner blade on just above each hook as it's then considered a lure.
Raf Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 Not if you put a spinner blade on just above each hook as it's then considered a lure. yes, that's my way around it too. but....................
Big Cliff Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 many years ago the only thing we used for ice fishing pike was dead smelts, we'd just set up a drop shot rig and hang the smelt about 1' off bottom. We didn't use ice rods, we'd just cut a tree branch, stick it in the snow/ice, and hang our line off the branch. We use to catch plenty of pike that way.
Terry Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 i am just playing devil's advocate (because that's the rig i use too) but, some will say a CO *MAY* hassle you for 2 trebles... in a bait situation, each point counts as a hook and thus you are over the limit on hooks. they removed that from the regs. to make quick strike rigs legal in ontario......each treble counts as one on live baits and lures
Raf Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 was not aware of that terry.. when did that happen? if that's the case, carry on..
mike rousseau Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Posted January 6, 2012 drive a railroad spike through the dead bait Really?
Raf Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 i keed you not. like i said, frozen dead bait will want to float. by putting someething heavy in its cavity you'll keep it down as well as oriented properly (ie. not floating sideways)
irishfield Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 That's the reason for all the derailments around Parry Sound !
lhousesoccer Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Bob Izumi had a show up north somewhere with Gord Pyzer, where they were hanging giant dead, frozen whitefish on tip-ups under the ice for big pike. You can watch it here: http://www.realfishing.com/rf/player.php?f=200904 Edited January 6, 2012 by vtbass
Terry Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 well they changed the wording slightly, I can't get a clear reading on it, but I was told it was to allow quick strike rigs and others to use 2 trebles......but who know for sure 100%, I was also told the MNR was contacted and confirmed..I don't totally trust what they say but
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