kenzy31 Posted March 2, 2011 Report Posted March 2, 2011 looking for thoughts on the cause of not starting. i went to leave work this morning at 2am, and all it did was crank but would not fire up! i drove it to 2 stores, to pick up my daughter, then to work all with no issues. not even a hesitation! my dad spoke with a local Ford dealership and they said it prob wont be fuel pump, but maybe some modulator up by the spare tire. apparently it rots from corrosion and goes faulty. cost of part is around $180, but wont know for sure if this is the issue till i get it towed back to Barrie. Any thoughts or experience from fellow F-150 owners or mechanics?? is this common? the truck is a 4.6L, 4x4, with only 75,000km. thank you for your help! Jesse
wanafish Posted March 2, 2011 Report Posted March 2, 2011 looking for thoughts on the cause of not starting. i went to leave work this morning at 2am, and all it did was crank but would not fire up! i drove it to 2 stores, to pick up my daughter, then to work all with no issues. not even a hesitation! my dad spoke with a local Ford dealership and they said it prob wont be fuel pump, but maybe some modulator up by the spare tire. apparently it rots from corrosion and goes faulty. cost of part is around $180, but wont know for sure if this is the issue till i get it towed back to Barrie. Any thoughts or experience from fellow F-150 owners or mechanics?? is this common? the truck is a 4.6L, 4x4, with only 75,000km. thank you for your help! Jesse Just had the same thing happen to my truck .2005 f 150 and it was the fuel pump control modual . It is located up under the spare tire . It it something that you can do easily yourself . You can usually tell just by looking at it that it is faulty.
bigredfisher Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 Try disconnecting battery for 30 min then try to start if it still won't start try key on for 15 min might be an anti theft feature had that problem with my truck worked for me
bubbles Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 When you turn the key forward you should hear the fuel pump turn on. Just replaced mine on the expedition, sounds familiar.
TJQ Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 Wow... no smart alecky remarks.... I'm very dissapointed.... Come on people.. its a FORD!!! Sounds like some good advice already.. hope that helps!!
OhioFisherman Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 TJ started it! Ford are for people that can`t spell Chevrolet. Seriously? haven`t turned a wrench in some years, and rarely on a Ford.
Eric S Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 just went thru the same thing on my expedition...intermittent crank but wont start....fuel pump in the gas tank...754.00 ouch
POLLIWOGG Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 Sometimes a sensor will not work right and tell the computer to give the engine way too much gas and flood the engine. If they continue to crank the engine it washes down the cylinders and fills the crankcase with gas. Now if a bit of flame from the combustion chamber gets past the rings into the gas filled crankcase...KABOOM ..It can blow the gaskets out from under the valve covers and intake. So like the guys said, listen for the fuel pump, and check to see if your oil is full of gas.
bubbles Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 just went thru the same thing on my expedition...intermittent crank but wont start....fuel pump in the gas tank...754.00 ouch I feel better about my 750 knowing I didn't get ripped off.
squiggy Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 Just had the same thing happen to my truck .2005 f 150 and it was the fuel pump control modual . It is located up under the spare tire . It it something that you can do easily yourself . You can usually tell just by looking at it that it is faulty. just had the same thing happen with mine and was the same part that went. the mechanic called ford to see if there was a recall on the part as the new one looked a bit different (it now mounts away from the frame instead of up against the frame)but there was no recall.
BillM Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 I feel better about my 750 knowing I didn't get ripped off. Well kinda of.. The part is probably worth $300, you paid $450 for labour
irishfield Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 Yep.. what Bill said.. 2004 pump/sender/etc you can get for $188 and free shipping. Did you try your second key kenzy??? Is the red security light blinking in the dash when the key is in and turned on?
Billy Bob Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 Wow... no smart alecky remarks.... I'm very dissapointed.... Come on people.. its a FORD!!! OK, I hate to disappoint TJ......get a TUNDRA.... :rofl2:
kenzy31 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) well, glad to report wannafish was right in the first reply! fuel pump control module, $175 for the part (dealer only), 18 Carling for the tow, and $40 for use of my buddy's hoist (and his help and parts discount ). the new design which keeps the unit off the cross-member should prevent future rotting and failure. the old one was cracked clear accross from salt and moisture buildup. thanks for all the help guys... except to the haters of the all mighty Blue Oval!!!!! Cheers, Jesse Edited March 6, 2011 by kenzy31
Billy Bob Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Glad it all worked out for you in a reasonable cost...now you can concentrate on more important things, like fishing...
Bernie Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 If the engine cranks and it doesn't start on an F150 the module is the first thing I look at. The ignition systems are reliable. We get a few ignition coil break downs causing misfire. Spark plug replacement can be a bad experience for guys that don't know what they are doing so be careful when that time comes around. All in all the Ford pickups are probably the best bang for the buck on the market today.
satchmoa Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 looking for thoughts on the cause of not starting. i went to leave work this morning at 2am, and all it did was crank but would not fire up! i drove it to 2 stores, to pick up my daughter, then to work all with no issues. not even a hesitation! my dad spoke with a local Ford dealership and they said it prob wont be fuel pump, but maybe some modulator up by the spare tire. apparently it rots from corrosion and goes faulty. cost of part is around $180, but wont know for sure if this is the issue till i get it towed back to Barrie. Any thoughts or experience from fellow F-150 owners or mechanics?? is this common? the truck is a 4.6L, 4x4, with only 75,000km. thank you for your help! Jesse Probably a fuel pump driver module as someone else stated. They have a new module out a 4l3z9d370a that is mounted different to keep the road crap out of it the old # 5l8z9d370a is still available and is alittle cheaper but you will have the same issues down the road if you plan on keeping the ttruck.
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