Sick of gas prices?

[Gerritt]

Just thought I would share this.... I found it an interesting read...

 

http://www.nob.on.ca/industry/energy/12-06-oil-brew.asp

 

 

Gerritt.

[fishindevil]

well thats very interesting gerritt ,like some of these guys say this technology has been around for a long time and the big oil companies keep putting up road blocks,unfortunaley OIL STILL RUNS THE WORLD AND WILL FOR ALONG TIME YET,LETS SEE AN ELECTRIC CAR PULL A 3,000LB BASS BOAT TO TIMMINS ,well you get my drift what about the expense,there is no cheap solution is there???

[Hooked]

I seen a show on the Discovery Channel a month or 2 ago pertaining the same thing as the guy in the article is doing. Except this guys refinery contraption was much larger, and quite a tedious procedure. He would travel around to restaurants and take their old deep fryer oil. Put it in his refinery machine then directly into his pickup. Quite a process and can see how it could work, especially with a smaller refiner. Cool post Gerritt.

[Roy]

Interesting. You folks want an interesting film to watch? Get a copy of "Who killed the electric car". It's an eye opener and just VERY thought provoking.

[Castmaster]

Sure would be nice to be able to dump the deep fryer oil in there and have fuel for the truck in the morning!

[irishfield]

"McDonalds held at gun point for fryer oil"...can see it now ! LOL

 

As Roy says..and note the electric car has been around for over a 100 years. There's a really nice example sitting in Witaskewan(sp) Alberta's Museum, that I believe is a 1908 model.

 

The only falsehood with the electric car is enviro saving Bull. You have to charge it somehow..generally fossil fuel hydro production in the USA. Even with the hybrids...nobody seems concerned as to where the batteries get thrown every 4 or 5 years.

[Tybo]

Soon as I can get my hands on biodiesel, It's going into the truck.

[Guest skeeter99]

here is a good one the pogue carberator

 

my dad told me about this one

 

you would use the fuel in a dry state rather than wet (being heated in vapour) sorta like propane that is a liquid and you burn the vapour

 

Oil Industry Suppressed Plans for 200-MPG Car

 

The original blueprints for a device that could have revolutionized the motor car have been discovered in the secret compartment of a tool box. A carburetor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of fuel caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its Canadian inventor Charles Nelson Pogue in the 1930s.

 

But the carburetor was never produced and, mysteriously, Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry. Ever since, suspicion has lingered that oil companies and car manufacturers colluded to bury Pogue’s invention.

 

Now a retired Cornish mechanic has enlisted the help of the University of Plymouth to rebuild Pogue’s revolutionary carburetor, known as the Winnipeg, from blueprints he found hidden beneath a sheet of plywood in the box. The controversial plans once caused panic among oil companies and rocked the Toronto Stock Exchange when tests carried out on the carburetor in the 1930s proved that it worked.

 

Patrick Davies, 72, from St Austell, had owned the tool box for 40 years but only recently decided to clean it out. As well as drawings of the carburetor, the envelope contained two pages of plans, three test reports and six pages of notes written by Pogue. They included a report of a test that Pogue had done on his lawnmower, which showed that he had managed to make the engine run for seven days on a quart (just under a litre) of petrol. The documents also described how the machine worked by turning petrol into a vapour before it entered the cylinder chamber, reducing the amount of fuel needed for combustion.

 

Mr Davies has had the patent number on the plans authenticated, proving that they are genuine documents.

He said: “I couldn’t believe what I saw. I used to be a motor mechanic and I knew this was something else altogether. I was given the tool box by a friend after I helped to paint her house in 1964. Her husband had spent a lot of time in Canada.”

 

The announcement of Pogue’s invention caused enormous excitement in the American motor industry in 1933, when he drove 200 miles on one gallon of fuel in a Ford V8. However, the Winnipeg was never manufactured commercially and after 1936 it disappeared altogether amid allegations of a political cover-up.

 

Dr Murray Bell, of the University of Plymouth’s department of mechanical and marine engineering, said he would consider trying to build a model of the Pogue carburetor.

 

Engineers who have tried in the past to build a carburetor using Pogue’s theories have found the results less than satisfactory. Charles Friend, of Canada’s National Research Council, told Marketplace, a consumer affairs programme: “You can get fantastic mileage if you’re prepared to de-rate the vehicle to a point where, for example, it might take you ten minutes to accelerate from 0 to 30 miles an hour.”

[Carp]

I hope it works out and the big oil companies finally get a kick in the pants.

 

There's a company in Mississauga that makes a hydrogen fuel

unit to attach to cars and trucks. Looks like more than one group is

doing something about the petrolium giants.

[Guest skeeter99]

here is another one cancer, dont know if I beleive but the **cancer industry** is huge doctors/drugs etc. if it was cured there would be economic ramifications

 

but just because someone is telling u to fix it this way does not always mean it is right?

 

 

The Planet The cure for cancer was covered up

 

Treatment suppressed since 1930s

 

Reprinted with permission from Barry Lynes

 

It has been a secret for many years --more than 50 years in fact. It is a secret that is a shame of the medical profession and another example of complacent press, another example of a scientific conspiracy that resembles more a medieval guild protecting its financial interests than a profession dedicated to public service, and another example of a political system afraid to promote the public good when it clashed with powerful elites.

 

This story also demonstrates how apathetic, asleep, cowardly and unwilling so many individuals, especially the self-righteous "new agers," actually are when given the opportunity to take real initiatives which could rectify monstrous wrongs.

 

The secret is the cancer cure.

 

Before detailing this fundamental wrong, it is important to emphasize what 50 years of covering up a cancer cure has meant in terms of suffering. Almost every family in America has been touched by the horror of lingering deaths by cancer. Those who haven't been directly affected have known neighbors and friends who have been the victims of both the disease and the arrogant scientists, government bureaucrats and financial elites who are responsible. Children have been among the many millions who have not only been abandoned to cancer's excruciating pain and protracted terror, but to existing, stupid, torturous, experimental procedures which don't work. In a word, the American medical and political "establishment" are guilty of gross misconduct.

 

Our nation is premised upon democratic procedures, checks and balances, competition, and the correction of abuses through open discussion which lead to institutional change. In the matter of this 50 year old cancer cure, all of the above have not worked. The cancer cure was suppressed. Agencies, both public and private, were not responsive. The cost in human lives and wasted resources has been staggering. A Vietnam War, the countless annual deaths in automobile accidents, or' the lives prematurely ended because of inferior nutrution caused by poverty together cannot match the number who have died horribly because America's culture could not expose and then break the vested interests which perpetrated this crime. And if Colorado Governor Lamm's figures are correct, one-third of Americans now living will die of cancer in the future. Americans tion of committed scientitst, and to promote the needed public education. So perhaps finally -~ if enough of us insist on it -- America's institutional ability to correct this outrage can be demonstrated. But don't hold your breath. Without a major, on-going, public commitment and a national authority to oversee the effort and report regularly on the progress being. made, it is unlikely that swift, significant remedies will occur.

 

In another article in this issue (The Timid Press, Page 1), syndicated columnist Mary McGrory's acceptance speech upon receiving the Lovejoy journalism award is reported. In that talk, Ms. McGrory advocated that readers read their papers "with the idea of doing something." In a similar vein, the article on the changing weather and the scientific cover up involved, science philosopher Paul Feyerabend is quoted when he calls for "duly elected committees of laymen" to judge the efforts and recommendations of scientists.

 

Certainly, if anything deserves both the individual reader's commitment as well as participation in oversight committees, it is the investigation into this cancer cure and the development of procedures to bring this cancer cure into practical use as fast as possible.

 

This story is somewhat technical, but the complicated scientific details will be omitted in order that you, the reader, can grasp the essentials. The specifics can be checked elsewhere and it is hoped that enough of you --including experts capable of initiating action will do so. A mobilization is required, for not only cancer. but AIDS and many other diseases threatening us are potentially capable of being eradicated if we, the people of the United States, get off our collective asses.

 

In the 1920s a scientist-inventor named Royal Raymond Rife invented a new kind of microscope. In an article New Age Journal March produced little from New readers), the story of Rife's cancer cure was detailed. Since then, Rife has been nominated for the "Alternative Nobel Prize" which is annually awarded in Europe as a protest to the more established, less risk taking Swedish honor. Yet, little notice of Rife and his miraculous discovery has infiltrated the establishment m consciousness.

 

Rife's microscope was a stunning advance. Unlike the electron microscope, Rife's microscope made it possible to study "living" bacteria, viruses, and so forth. An electron microscope kills its specimens. Rife's remarkable breakthrough used a new approach to bend light. As a result, Rife was able to prove that bacteria could change their form. In effect, they could become cancer causing viruses.

 

Rife then implanted his cancer-causing bacteria into rats. Tumors subsequently developed. From here, Rife made the startling discovery that the bacteria could change into a completely different form if the "medium on which they were living" was slightly altered. In other words, Rife's cancer causing substance was, in some forms and in association with some environments within the body, deadly. But in other forms and in other environments, benign. His cancer causing substance could be changed back and forth from one to the other. The implications of this discovery are obvious. Cancer cells might be transformed to healthy cells again!

 

Rife then began beaming different frequencies of light on these microorganisms. Up until the early 1950s, Rife perfected this method. As Christopher Bird reported in the New Age article, "many lethal those of tuberculosis, typhoid, leprosy . . . appeared to disintegrate or 'bIow up' in the field of his microscope." This "death ray" was applied to cancers in rats. It worked!

 

The next step was humans. The result? Here is Rife's report: "The first clinical work on cancer was completed under the supervision of Milbank Johnson, M.D., which was setup under a special medical research committee of the University of Southern California. Sixteen cases were treated at the clinic for manv tvpes of malignancy. After three months, fourteen of these so-called hopeless cases were signed off as clinically cured by a staff of medical doctors and Alvin G. Foord, M. D., pathologist for the group.

 

Throughout the 1930's, Rife and associates continued their work. In 1940, Arthur W. Yale, M.D. reported that Rife's discoveries were an entirely new theory of the origin and cause of cancer, and the treatment and results have been so unique and unbelievable" that we' may be able to "eliminate the second largest cause of deaths in the United States."

 

But it was not to be!

 

There were powerful doctors whose careers were based on the theory that bacteria could not change its form. Rife's discovery threatened their status and their own research. (It was like the invention of the automobile for a horse-drawn carriage driver.)

 

One of these "authorities" was Dr. Thomas Rivers of the Rockefeller Institute. Another was Harvard microbiologist Dr. Hans Zinsser. The cancer cure was killed by the powerful.

 

One of Rife's supporters, Dr. Edward C. Rosenow, a pioneer bacteriologist, sadly commented at the end of his life, "They simply won't listen."

 

Others have followed Rife and have confirmed different aspects of his theory, but since they are few in number and are promoting a cause contrary to the medical establishment's approved philosophy, they are not supported. Even publishing their findings is difficult if not impossible because of the dominant medical orthodoxy which has reigned since the 1930s!

 

Christopher Bird's 1976' New Age Journal article contained a, summation of the political coverup as perceived by the Lee Foundation of Nutritional Research in Milwaukee. According to Bird, the Lee Foundation "maintains that Rife, his microscope and his life work were tabooed by Ieaders in the U.S. medical profession and that any medical doctor who made use of his practical discoveries was stripped of his privileges as a member of the local medical society."

 

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still bans treatments similar to those of Rife.

 

And how many millions of dollars are annually "invested" in the establishment's preferred quackery and toururous gimmicks?

 

Those interested in pursuing this matter, which as a first step means forming a national committee of scientists, administrators, "can-do-types" and laymen to monitor and correct this crime are encouraged to contact The Planet. Perhaps citizen action is not entirely dead in this country yet.

 

Or have we truly lost our nerve, our fighting spirit, and our 1776 contempt for aristrocracy assuming dictatorial rights over our bodies and minds?

 

Barry Lynes

[pikehunter]

Even with the hybrids...nobody seems concerned as to where the batteries get thrown every 4 or 5 years.

 

I have also pondered the same thought Wayne. What about those lead laden batteries?

 

I knew a guy a few years ago with a Toyota Hybrid car. When it was a couple of years old he had to replace the muffler. The system had to be bought from the dealer at a cost of 1200 bucks That alone would cover the cost of a few litres of gas.

 

I also have to wonder about the long term durability of a gas engine that is continuously starting up and shutting down as needed. This can't be good on the internal components either?

 

Just my thoughts.

[OhioFisherman]

Some of the programs on the history channel are really interesting, Rudolph Diesel designed the diesel engine to run on vegetable oil, Henry Ford designed his engines to run on alcohol. Ease and quantity of fuel production killed that, it was easier and cheaper to pump oil from the ground.

 

The cancer deal? No clue on that, humans tend to be over confident on their ability to find an answer. I have Multiple Sclerosis not as bad as cancer, but they are still guessing on that one, they don`t know the cause, theories, no cure, maybe treatment to slow it down, if it works without causing other problems, and the treatments certainly aren`t cheap. Nothing like having to pay 1200 to 1600 dollars a month for a maybe treatment, maybe it will slow it down, it won`t cure you!

 

Not problems you can fix overnight, can`t fix anything if you don`t try!