Guest Fishing For Life Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Here is another stupid question. When I used to use bottom-bounching, braided line with spinning reel for salmon, I ALWAYS land snagged fish regardless of where the fish was snagged However, things are never the same as soon as I switch to mono-main + fluro-leader + centerpin. I could almost never ever be able to land a fish if it is snagged. I wonder if it is because snagged fish is much more difficult to control (basically no control), and braided line is strong enough to pull it off Who can give me an explanation as to why hooking fish in the mouth makes landing much easier? Is it because it makes them tired much faster? or is it because they give up faster? BTW, i never keep fish which were accidently snagged. It was all for the fun please dont flame me =)
Roy Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Aerodynamically speaking, fish hooked in the mouth, (which is the only legal/ethical place to hook them) a fish will come in much more easily. If you're purposely snagging fish, you should hang up your skates now. Please don't tell me you're purposely snagging fish.
BeRad3000 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 I think its because you can steer the fish better with its head and pull him through the water as apposed to dragging him through the water sideways.
highdrifter Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 You're absolutely right. That is a stupid question! HD
salmon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Here is another stupid question. When I used to use bottom-bounching, braided line with spinning reel for salmon, I ALWAYS land snagged fish regardless of where the fish was snagged I wonder if it is because snagged fish is much more difficult to control (basically no control), and braided line is strong enough to pull it off Is it because it makes them tired much faster? or is it because they give up faster? BTW, i never keep fish which were accidently snagged. It was all for the fun please dont flame me =) If by accident I snag a salmon I would try to break off as fast as possible. As not spook the rest of the salmon in the pool. Probably get a lot of other guy ticked at you would even try to land a snagged salomn. I have seen that happen many times, a novice having one snagged and the rest of the guys screaming at him to break it off.
StrealHeader Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 You're absolutely right. That is a stupid question! HD :clapping:
Beats Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 The only way I can see that you would be constantly snagging salmon (accidentally) is if you are fishing tiny pools in creeks where the salmon are stacked. It's questionable if that is even considered fishing. Catch them off piers and river mouths before they start into the rivers. They actually attack lures still at that point. Once they get into the creeks just let them do their thing. There's no point standing beside a 10ft pool and dangling things in front of them til a hook snags them in the mouth/tail/back. Sry to flame, but I've been reading your posts and it sounds like you didn't have a tonne of success off the piers and now you are chasing them up the creeks. You are making it sound like you snag quite a few salmon which implies you are fishing tiny pools. Hey, maybe I'm wrong but at least do yourself a favour and don't announce that you are snagging salmon.
salmon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 The only way I can see that you would be constantly snagging salmon (accidentally) is if you are fishing tiny pools in creeks where the salmon are stacked. It's questionable if that is even considered fishing. Catch them off piers and river mouths before they start into the rivers. They actually attack lures still at that point. Once they get into the creeks just let them do their thing. There's no point standing beside a 10ft pool and dangling things in front of them til a hook snags them in the mouth/tail/back. Sry to flame, but I've been reading your posts and it sounds like you didn't have a tonne of success off the piers and now you are chasing them up the creeks. You are making it sound like you snag quite a few salmon which implies you are fishing tiny pools. Hey, maybe I'm wrong but at least do yourself a favour and don't announce that you are snagging salmon. Agreed Snagging: One of the main reasons I stopped river fishing during this time. Now I only head out late October to December. River mouths is the better option, feel the rush of a fresh chinook hitting a spoon. It is like a runaway freight train.
steverowbotham Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 sorry dude, you just lost a lot of respect on this board. If the fish is snagged, break it off.
steelhead hunter Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 (edited) snaging salmon for fun? that's low why even try to fight it BREAK IT OFF!!!! fighting a snaged fish on the rivers I fish will get you a good thrown in if not worse Edited August 30, 2008 by steelhead hunter
Guest Fishing For Life Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 Sigh, i knew some of you guys are going to overreact which made me think twice before asking that question Let me make this clear. I have never purposely snagged fish, ok? so please stop flaming and stop giving me lectures if you may please also ask yorself if you have ever accidently snagged a fish in his/her whole life? If i were to purposely snag a fish, why dont I use a treble hook with inline-spinner? Therefore, please keep your unnecessary wrath at home, thanks my questions is whether anyone can give me a scientific explanantion as why it is easier to land a fish. PERIOD. THANKS AGAIN
steelhead hunter Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 dude you were the one who said "Idon't keep them It's all for fun" what do you expect
PatrickGG Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 10 Second Rule or cut your line, what a pathetic topic.
StrealHeader Posted August 30, 2008 Report Posted August 30, 2008 10 Lb Braid = Strong Fluorocarbon Tippet = Not as strong Understand?
MCTFisher9120 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 not sure man. Maybe one of these people may know.
BillM Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 I think what people are a bit upset about is that fact that you don't try to break off the fish once you have figured out it's been snagged. Everyone who river fishes has accidentally snagged a fish, no one can take the high road on that one. It just depends on what you do once you've snagged it that makes the difference.
salmon Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 Here is another stupid question. please dont flame me =) You expected to get flamed and now your are upset that you are getting flamed? Like most people said break it off...... Jose
Greencoachdog Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) I prefer to snag them "Right in the dang' EYE!!!" Edited August 31, 2008 by GCD
Beats Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 THe issue was that his post made it sound like he was consistently snagging fish. Obviously, anyone going out for salmon is hoping to hook them in the mouth. No doubt about that. But, just as an example, if you were to fish a pool full of salmon and make a few drifts, snag a salmon, make a few more drifts, snag another salmon... etc, etc. then it's time to move on. His post sounds like he is in a situation where there are lots of salmon around him yet all he can manage to do is foul hook them, so he plays them out and somehow finds gratification in the fight. He is certainly wanting to properly hook the fish, that's clear. I think it's just his methods that are wrong. If you are snagging fish by chance, over and over, re-evaluate the situation. Something isn't adding up. I suggest trying piers or rivermouths. I'm sure you haven't purposely ever snagged a fish, yet it looks like you are fishing in spots that are setting you up to do just that.
yo_guy Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 The only reason why you can land a fish faster when hooked in the mouth regardless of what line your using is because you can steer the fish to the direction you want faster with control period no scientific facts here. It's common sense really! Next time you go to the creek get your stop watch out with pen and paper collect your data and report back with your findings. When hooked in the tail or any part of the body I can assure you it will take double the time to land when compared to a fish hook a fish hooked in the mouth. Seriously though if you have a fouled hooked fish you should break if off or land it immiediately and not minutes later. Also, by the time you land a fouled hooked fish I can assure you the fish will be good as dead caused from the unneccesary stress especially with the warm water temps, it might swim away momentarily but by the end of the day it'll be a floater. Best of luck!
Rich Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 If by accident I snag a salmon I would try to break off as fast as possible. As would most of us, since that is the law.
Greencoachdog Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 If by accident I snag a salmon I would try to break off as fast as possible. As not spook the rest of the salmon in the pool. Probably get a lot of other guy ticked at you would even try to land a snagged salomn. I have seen that happen many times, a novice having one snagged and the rest of the guys screaming at him to break it off. Well I hope if you or any of the other guys at the "pool" ever get a hook in yourselves, you just break the line and leave the hook in your flesh to dissolve or whatever you think it's going to do to remove itself! I personally will do my best to land the fish and remove the hook, then return the fish to the water a quickly as possible... that is the LAW!!!
StrealHeader Posted August 31, 2008 Report Posted August 31, 2008 As would most of us, since that is the law. No, its not.
Recommended Posts