Ron

Unfortunately, I think this thread is going to come to an end. Too bad, I thought it was going rather well. Mike if you have accusations against me, please bring them forward. I would love to see your evidence. Be careful though, slander is an indictable offence. Your efforts on making people think I am a poacher, over harvesting, spoilage of game fish and cheating for a profit in a derby does not reflect very well with my peers. To Rice Lake Tourist Association, From what I gather and summed up on this thread is this, and I feel other members in this angling community would agree: The Rice Lake Tourist Association is against the extended angling opportunities. The Rice Lake Tourist Association is against the catch limit of 300 panfish of which 30 may be larger than 18cm (7.1) and feel that a 500 limit of which 0 (zero) may be greater than 18cm (7.1) would be better. Your representatives are accusing all local anglers for contributing 0(zero) dollars into the local economy, you are accusing anyone who is fishing on the ice are poachers. With the regulations you are proposing you are going to make every "new to fishing" fisher person, a poacher. Think back to when you were a kid, what was the first fish you caught? Chances are, if you are with the majority of people, it was a Sunfish. For your information, when I referred to catch limits, I was not misleading anyone. The following text is copied out of the fishing regulations: Catch and Possession Limits – The catch limit is the number of fish you are allowed to catch and keep in one day and includes fish that are retained for any period of time and any fish eaten or given away. The possession limit is the number you are allowed to have in your possession on hand, in cold storage, in transit, or anywhere. Possession limits are the same as one day's catch limit except where otherwise specified.

Tigers are regarded as a Muskie in the fishing regulations.

Nice seeing you back Carole! Hope you are felling better. Cheers, Ron...

Bunt...

Actually, it doesn't take long to find names of resorts and about people on the internet. I googled Susan Irving-Cogar and this is what I got: Rice Lake ice fishing problems feared Brendan Wedley, Peterborough Examiner January 21st, 2010 Allowing ice fishing on Rice Lake and limiting the number of panfish caught from the lake will cause problems, a local tourist association representative says. Susan Irving-Cogar, the owner of Sunshine Cove Cottage Resort and a Rice Lake Tourist Association member, urged county council Wednesday to complain about the new fishing regulations to the provincial government. Council plans to raise the issue with newly appointed Natural Resources Minister Linda Jeffrey at the Rural Ontario Municipal Association conference that runs from Feb. 21-24 in Toronto. A panel put in place three years before the regulation changes to research the fishing situation and make recommendations found there should be a 500-panfish limit, Irving-Cogar said. “Overbreeding of this invasive species is something that will happen,” she said, “Overbreeding is a serious concern.” Previously, there wasn’t a limit on the number of panfish a person could catch, Irving-Cogar said. A panfish is a small fish that generally can fit in a frying pan. Examples of species of panfish include sunfish, crappie and perch. With the new regulations, the limits are 300 sunfish with only 30 more than 18 centimetres long with a sport licence or 15 sunfish of any size with a conservation licence; 30 crappie with a sport licence or 10 with a conservation licence; 50 perch with a sport licence or 25 with a conservation licence. The Ministry of Natural Resources brought in various new fishing regulations across the province on Jan. 1. Among the regulation changes, the fishing season for sunfish, yellow perch, black crappie and northern park has been extended to year-round; the catch limit for walleye between 35 and 50 centimetres is four with a sport licence and one with a conservation licence; and the bass, muskie and walleye season is extended to Dec. 15. There has been no winter fishery on Rice Lake in more than 90 years, Irving-Cogar said. “Ice fishing brings a lot of problems with it,” she said. Irving-Cogar listed problems such as Rice Lake’s reputation for unstable ice, the current in the lake with inflow from the Otonabee River and outflow at Hastings into the Trent River, putting emergency staff at peril if they need to rescue people fishing on the like in the winter, walleye poaching and the lack of conservation officers. Irving-Cogar asked council to push the Ministry of Natural Resources to create special area for Rice Lake with its own set of regulations. The bulk of resorts around the lake aren’t winterized, Irving-Cogar said. “We are seasonal and quite frankly we don’t have funds to make ourselves a year-round business and quite frankly we don’t want to,” she said. Concerns put forward at a public meeting on the regulation changes fell on deaf ears, Havelock-Belmont- Methuen Reeve Ron Gerow said. “I share your concerns,” he told Irving-Cogar. “I don’t think that MNR actually listened to anybody.” Rice Lake: A Specially Designated Waterway The Rice Lake Tourist Association has won support from the County of Northumberland to declare the Lake a specially-designated waterway. The resolution, which also has the support of Peterborough County and its municipalities ... will be sent to the Ministry of Natural Resources. One of the association's members, Susan Irving-Cogar says it's a complete contradiction to permit winter ice fishing while imposing limits on panfish Rice Lake: A Specially Designated Waterway The Rice Lake Tourist Association has won support from the County of Northumberland to declare the Lake a specially-designated waterway. The resolution, which also has the support of Peterborough County and its municipalities ... will be sent to the Ministry of Natural Resources. One of the association's members, Susan Irving-Cogar says it's a complete contradiction to permit winter ice fishing while imposing limits on panfish. The next 2 are the best ones... talk about a double edged sword... County Backs Tourist Association on Fishing The Rice Lake Tourist Association has won support from the County of Northumberland to declare the Lake a specially-designated waterway . The resolution ... which also has the support of Peterborough County and its municipalities ... will be sent to the Ministry of Natural Resources . One member, Susan Irving-Cogar says it's a complete contradiction to permit winter ice fishing while imposing limits on panfish . Irving-Cogar says winter ice fishing ... which tends to leave mounds of garbage on the frozen surface ... amounts to a flagrant disregard for true conservation . Mar.19.10 <H3 class=status-headline-big>Susan Irving-Cogar</H3> <H3 style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 4px">About </H3>Member CPS since 1978. My husband and I own a cottage/fishing resort on Rice Lake. Been boating my entire life and still love it. Actually, we own about 15 other boats, but "the Hawg" is my baby and mine alone. She's loud (has thru hulls) and fast .. about 70 mph. Makes me smile I'd buy a Donzi .. now there's a dream come true. Fast and loud .. did I mention fast .. and loud .. lol. All of the above is from googleing her name. Seems to me she is a real coservatoinists herself with that nusience boat on the waterways... On a good note, at least it appears that northumberland Tourism is accepting the thought of promoting Icefishing. I see Mike Ferguson is promoting his business on the same page, right above BJ Tackle. http://www.northumberlandtourism.com/en/wi...eIceFishing.asp Kinda kewl, even OFC made this link! Cheers, Ron...

Sorry to hear this Flex. My condolences go out to you, your family and your Dad's friends.

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Well well well, They are acusing me of catching Perch in Lake Simcoe to show as Perch caught on Rice Lake. Funny, I guess we should ask the area Conservatoin Officer as he checked me for my licence and also commented on the size of the Perch I was catching. Curious, I'd like to know how to tell the difference between Simcoe Perch and Rice Lake Perch.... Another comment in regards to Icefishermen putting the local Fire Departments at danger. If it wasn't for myself and another fellow angler, there would have been 2 more snowmobile deaths on Rice Lake. We were fishing near Pengally Point just along side a pressure crack when 2 snowmobilers tried to cross the crack. The first guy made it but 2nd guy didn't. The first guy went back to rescue his buddy and fell through himself. With Jay and myself and quick thinking, we managed to rescue them out of the ice and also managed to salvage his snowmobile. I guess we should have taken pictures of them almost drowning before we took on the initiative to get them to safety first. Garbage??? What garbage? Did anyone out there see garbage on the ice? The only article I saw out there was a grocery bag which blew away from a permenant hut. The unfortunate part of this whole ordeal is we went through all this with the advisory council. 3 years of consulting with differnt stake holders. I guess the past president of the RLTA did n't pass on the info to their members as we are going through all of this again! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Rice Lake Tourists Association, go find another sand box to do your cat scratching in. You were represented at the meetings. Same as the Buckhorn District also City of Kawartha Lakes. RLTA are the only ones who think this is unjustified and are blaming the poor bookings.

It's strange, seems as though Rice Lake Tourists Ass. say one thing ans then get quoted saying another. I don't understand... First they say to us that "no we don't want to close the winter ice fishing season" but then in every article you read in the news papers it says "Ice fishing should NOT be allowed on Rice Lake". I just don't get it. Here is the most recent article in the local paper. Northumberland Today News paper Take a good look at the photo the submitted. They claim that is 90 Bluegill, perhaps they should read the regs and ensure that the packaging of fish is identifiable. Don't look like you can count that amount and doesn't appear to be able to identify them either! I can't debate this topic alone anglers, Squaking on this forum alone is not going to keep the changes we have all fought for. If you want to see our privledges get revoked, say nothing, nothing at all. If you want to ensure we keep the additional angling oportunities, contact the MNR, your local MP and the municipality you live in. Remember, this could happen in your back yard too. Cheers, Ron... Cheers, Ron...

I don't think there was a weekend where I didn't get out to Rice Lake. I enjoyed exploreing a "new" lake. Starting near Margarettes Island and working West to as far as Bewdley, I managed to find some excellent spots to fish for Perch. We had several days iceing well over 150 Perch. Highlight of the season I guess was fishing with some new friends who had spent just as much time on waters in their backyard and sharing opinoins/pointers, compare notes to see what the fish are enhabiting on that particular lake. Although I din't find the ever plentifull Crappie, as everyone else I spoke to, I/we still managed to have a spectacular season on the newly opened Kawartha Lakes. Highlights would have to be finding the one honey hole of Jumbos. I mean, these Perch would put a hurten on the Simcoe guys! Largest Perch caught went 14.5 inches and was close to the 2lb mark. BJ Tackle in Bewdley had a Derby on the last weekend for huts to be out and we managed to come in first and third. It was a bitter sweet, knowing we found an area that produced good size fish and now knowing people are going to be looking for my truck and hut! ha ha ha

Too funny TJ! Gotta like it. ha ha ha ha Cheers, Ron...

PM sent. I thnk Beans can help you out on this one too.

Ya.....OK..... Looks like premature woodpecker tracks if you know what I mean....

So, how many lucky OFNer's were in line for the door crasher at BPS today? It wasn't advertised but they had the Lowrance HDS 5 for 300.00 plus tx. Man I wished I had of gone today....

Thanks to those of you who sent in letters to the editor. Here are a few linnks to those letters: These links show the good, the bad and the ugly. http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/Article....aspx?e=2488548 http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/Article....aspx?e=2488541 Cheers, Ron...

Ha ha ha Not at all Beans, I just call Rice Lake "MY LAKE"

Wow your shorelines are breaking up and we still got 24+ inches of ice! No sign of shorelines breaking up any time soon either.

Way to go Cliff. You never cease to amaze me! Good on ya bud!

speechless!

Broaden your search a bit... Can't think of the name of the place at the moment, but right at the mouth of the Peferlaw Brook (River), there is a resort right on the water. tie your boat up on the docks, fish cleaning station and a very nice restaurant if you want as well. Unless someone else chimes in for the name of the resort, I will look it up in the meantime. Edit: found it...http://www.peninsularesort.net/ google map Cheers, Ron...

Ya, that's the one TJ, I didn't know that is what you had it up for. Silly me filled out all the cards and put them in the box. I thought it was for winning something. So, not only are you out of Vodka, you are out of entry form cards too!

Probably checking up on his Lobsters. Nice looking bird Roy. I would have to guess it being a Coopers Hawk if you are wanting to know what it is.... Cheers, Ron...

I went to pay BPS some homage today and while browsing around in the fishing section, low and behold I come by this booth with some forms to fill out to apply for the online e-magazine. I took a picture of it, just have to figure out how to get it off my new phone. Good on ya TJ and Dave! Hope it goes well. Cheers, Ron...

http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/Article....aspx?e=2481123

Ah ha! I know who you are now! ha ha ha!!! Just so we don't give away the spot, I remember you moving your truck a few times to help block the wind. That rechargeable drill certainly did a great job on that 30 inches of ice too! I was the guy on the sled pulling a portable hut. Had I of known it was you Jer, I would have introduced myself. We buggerred off in search of new areas to fish. Them there Crappies sure are tough to find. I got a few of those lunkers on Chemong, but believe you me.... I caught bigger ones on Rice. Cheers, Ron...